Kiryas Joel, NY – Chabad And Satmar Strengthening The Ties.

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    Kiryas Joel, NY – Earlier this week chabad Shliachim to Princeton, NJ, Rabbi Dovid Dubov, Rabbi Chaim Schapiro of Morristown, NJ and Rabbi Dubov’s two sons Sholom Ber – age 11 and Motty – age 9 met with the Satmar Rebbe, Rabbi Aron Teitelbaum in his Kiryas Yoel home.

    The purpose of the 40-minute long was to present Rabbi Teitelbaum with the entire 25-volume of Yalkut Moshiach Ugeula Al Hatorah.

    Rabbi Dubov shared with the Satmar Rebbe the scope of the project how the Lubavitcher Rebbe Zt’l wanted everyone should learn about Moshiach Ugeula and the idea of collecting Mefarshim form hundreds of different commentary on the Torah in the subject of Moshiach Ugeula.

    The Satmar Rebbe was very touched that commentary from his ancestors in the Satmar dynasty such as; Yismach Moshe, Atzei Chaim, Kedushas Yom Tov, and Yeetav Lev etc are included in the Yalkut Moshiach Ugeula Seforim. In general he was looking at the Seforim for over 10 minutes and expressed great admiration for the scope of the project and wished great Hatzlacha for the completion until the end of the Torah.

    Rabbi Teitelbaum spoke very highly of the Shliach, Rabbi Yonosan Denebeim [VIN had a story on rabbi Denebeim] director of Chabad of Palm Springs, California where he goes on vacation and Davens at the Chabad Shul and uses the Mikvah.

    He related a story where many years ago there were certain organizations who wanted to stop Lubavitch Yeshivos form getting support from certain programs and he personally called and spoke to the ones in charge that they should not stop, C”V to support Lubavitch and B”H they have not. A few years later, Rabbi Teitelbaum continued, the same people wanted to stop Satmer Yeshivos from getting support (due to Internal Machlokes etc) and at that time LUBAVITCH intervened and helped Satmar. He spoke with great Kovod how Satmar helped Lubavitch and Lubavitch helped Satmar.

    Rabbi Teitelbaum spoke to Rabbi Dubov in great length about his shlichus work in Princeton and the approach of Lubavitch. He asked how many families come to shul on Shabbos, and Rabbi Dubov answered approximately 40 families. He asked if they are all shomer shabbos and Rabbi Dubov answered “many are and many are on the way of becoming shomer shabbos.” He smiled and liked the answer.

    He spoke to Rabbi Chaim Schapiro regarding Morristown and Rabbi Zalman Leib Markowitz the principal of the boys Cheder. He then spoke to the Shluchim kids about their learning and their shlichus.

    During the course of the visits there were Divrei Torah and Chassidishe stories about the Rebbe that Rabbi Dubov and Rabbi Schapiro shared with the Satmar Rebbe.

    On the way out his Gabboim thanked the Shluchim for coming and said that their Rebbe enjoyed the visit very much.

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    48 COMMENTS

    1. It is interesting to note that this Satmar Rebbe reaches out to ALL spectrums of the orthodox world from Lakewood till Lubavitch, he is a real mentch, may we all continue to be zoche for a full Achdus.

    2. well,. for sure he didn’t invite them. if anyone comes to a rabbi why would he not talk to them especailly when they have interesting things to say or ask.

      I am glad he ws nice to them

    3. If Rav Shach Zt”l the Gadol Hador spoke with a tekifus against Lubavitch & so does Rav Belsky Shlita why does rabbi Teitelbaum admire them?

      • Put it This Way; If The Satmer Rebbe ,The Chofetz Chaim , Reb Chaim Ozer ,The Baba Sali, Rav Hirschprung , The Gerer Rebbe ( The List Goes on And On…) All Respected And Loved Lubavitch, How Can These ” Gedolim” Go Against The Vast Majority of Authentic Gedolim, And attack Lubavitch ?

    4. I would understand if the Satmar rabbi would give a Nedoveh for a Chabad poor guy, but to accept the books of Leubavits in front of cameras is really not what satmar used to be. but from rabbi Aaron we can accept everything.

      what i suggest that in return the lubavitch chasidim to go on a protest against Israel. maybe one day.

    5. Anon. 7:57PM. The Satmar Rebbi ZY”A (Reb Yoilish, as you call him) had burning Ahavas Yisroel in his heart for any and every Yid. And even if he made a strong statement, (never equivocated, hedged his bets, hemmed or hawed.) he never attacked anyone personally, or refrained from helping even his so-called adversaries in every way possible! So if some people absorbed only part of his message, that doesn’t make his derech any less important. But Rabbi Aharon Teitelbaum, the present Satmar Rebbi has a clear message that is easier for common people to follow!

    6. TO:

      a Ponevizher:

      Who said “If Rav Shach Zt”l the Gadol Hador spoke with a tekifus against Lubavitch & so does Rav Belsky Shlita why does rabbi Teitelbaum admire them?” – 05-14-2008 – 7:43 PM

      Maybe Shach wasn’t such a godol hador after all?! I don’t think sinas Yisroel is a trait of a godol hador!!!

    7. A FEW POINTS

      this is no suprise to people on the inside

      satmar & lubavitch have used each others help in albany & washington (inc. a recent ongoing situation) despite their differences

      whats different today is

      lubavitch is not a ideological threat to satmar as it was in the 70’s & 80″s ( because of the rebbes petira its less attractive.

      zionism as it was is practicly dead ,lubavitch has not been able to change the gov mind to stick with their shita & with the unfortunate current govt. giving parts of e”y away satmars voice is unnecesary

      satmars fought so bitterly among themselves that theres no more ….anyone else

      lubavitch shluchim have proved themselves to be soldiers of hashem safely anchored to 770

    8. One of my oldest friends is Satmar…I’m Lubavitch. We get on just fine. It’s all the troublemakers out there who try to cut the ties that bind the 2 groups together. I really wish you miserable people would stop trying to cause trouble…don’t you see anything that’s going on in the frum veldt? Leave everyone alone, respect each other, & grow up.

    9. Rav Shach loved every yid with all his heart. However, when there was an issue of Kfira he didn’t hesitate to declare so in no uncertain terms. “Ohavei Hashem sinu ra”. Standing up for Hashem in the face heresy is not sinas chinum its kovod shomayim.

    10. The satmar rabbi reb yoel allways Injoyed when rabunim from the aguda came in and argued with tham he loved it. Famus story one of the big “MACHERS” in aguda came and argued about isreal the rabii was very TZIKOCHT a few weeks later he came back crying that hes making chassena dosent have money the rabbi paid for the whole thats AHAVAS YISROEL and thats excectly what the current rabbi does !!

    11. Idiots! Stop comparing this Rebbe to Reb Yoilish!!!!!! Let him make sholom with his brother before he goes to Lubavitch. And let Lubavitch make sholom with themselves. And the litvaks… they can do the same. Only then can we hope for ‘Vekabtzeinu YACHAD Me’Arba Kanfos Haaretz’.

    12. I don’t understand what the problem is here. Just because someone disagrees with someone elses shitah, you can’t meet with them? It’s only when the fight is about “YERISHE” that the fight becomes personal.

    13. Reb Yoel Satmar would be proud of his grand nephew’s Ahavas Yisroel. any person who thinks otherwise did not know the Satmar Ruv who loved every single Yid.

    14. When yidden get together,and discuss,they will always find the common ground,and discover that there are really minimal differences,in the core values.

      The problem with hara’v shach zal,was that he never met the lubavitcher rebbe in person.and i assume never picked up the phone to call him,before he came out with tirade.

      this goes for everyone,before you go on to attack.first talk to the other party,and understand their viewpoint.

    15. ” I doubt the Gedolim met with Moses Mendelsohn before they attacked him.”

      I doubt they needed to meet with him. There is an inyan not to deal with kofrim. Some people are not worth saving.

    16. I am Lubavich and have always admired things in Satmer, I know many wonderful people in Satmer.

      I think the Bikur Cholim they do is amazing! No other groul does what they do! I was in the hospital for an extended stay and they came every day. As a lubavitcher I do wish we would learn a thing or two about tznius from them.

    17. Why don’t people write with more seichel?

      This is a beautiful story. There was nothing political about it.

      Mark my words. When they do something outrageous, he WILL say something!!!

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