Jerusalem – Rabbi Calls For ‘Korban Pesach’ At Temple Mount

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    Jerusalem – The annual attempts to resume the Passover sacrifice received a first significant rabbinical backing recently. Safed’s Chief Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu, a prominent religious Zionism leader, has called on the public to perform the sacrifice mitzvah on the eve of the Jewish holiday, in about two weeks.

    Speaking during a Halacha lesson in Jerusalem last week, the rabbi warned that Jews evading the mitzvah were risking “Kareth” – a supernatural punishment for transgressing Jewish Law.

    According to Rabbi Eliyahu, there is a halachic, legal and public possibility to offer a Passover sacrifice these days. During the lesson, he quoted senior rabbinical authorities, adding that Rabbi Zvi Hirsch Kalisher – one of the founders of modern and religious Zionism – had asked the Turkish sultan to allot an area on the Temple Mount for the erection of an altar for a Passover sacrifice.

    The Safed rabbi went on to say that the Passover sacrifice could be slaughtered in front of the Dome of the Rock plaza, although the Temple no longer exists and the people of Israel are defined as “tameh met” (in a status of impurity which comes from contact with a dead body).

    In order to overcome the greatest obstacle, beyond the political problem, an altar must be erected, the rabbi said. He also called for the preparation of “priesthood clothes”, which are the only ones in which Kohanim (priests) can perform their work at the Temple.

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    48 COMMENTS

    1. Harav kalisher was refuted on thist point by their geonim of his time like the chasam sofer and others. And calling harav kalishery, who corresponded with the greats of his generation, a religious zionist, is an insult.

    2. Why do the beautiful days of spring and joy and simcha of anticipation of Pesach each year bring out these loony tunes askanim and rabbonim who scream about some obligation to bring karbanos before binyan bayis shlishi and the coming of moisiach. Aside from being mamash apikorsus, what this rav is preaching is certain to be a catalyst for violence and bloodshed amond the muslims but maybe thats what he wants.

      • oiber-chacham: i couldnt of said it better you hit the nail on its head, this is tottal insanity he is mentally disturbed and should be commited into an insane asylem the sooner the better before other mentally disturbed people start getting violent for this so called rabbis cause, insane.

      • U’main v’um’ain…..this is the first time I’ve ever agreed with the oiber chacham but hsi comments are right on point. I agree that this rav is truly a demented individual (perhaps related to the other nutcase who each year is arrested trying to sneak a goat up to the har habayis). I’m not normall a big fan of preventive detention but given that we know the irrational violence that even the threat of such actions can bring, perhaps the police should lock away these meshugaaim until motzi yom tov.

    3. Are there not enough mitzvas to fulfill for Pesach that we need to add what could cause violence and bloodshed?

      In Europe they used to not open the doors during the seder even though it was the mitzva/minhag until they felt it was safe from goyim who ch’as v’shalom would take the open door as a chance to do harm.

      Look at what is happening with the crazy riots in Afghanistan by Muslims killing just because a koran was burned half a world away. Imagine what sort of p’keach nefash will come from trying to bring korban pesach in front of the dome of the rock on Har Habayis.

    4. finaly someone willing to say the truth its simple it says in talmud that sacrifices are offered even though there is no beit hamikdash since the majority of Jews in the world now live in Israel we should sacrifice the passover sacrifice this year

    5. The Korban Pesach need NOT be brought only in the Beis Hamikdash. It is the only Korban that could be brought without the Beis Hamikdash standing. To clarify: The Korban May NOT be brought on a “Bamas Yachid’, even though it technically requires NO Bais.

      The issue of Tumah is seemingly also not an issue as Tumah is Hutra/ Dechuya B’e Tzibur. So Tumah would not be a problem per se’

      The Shechitah does not have to be done by a Kohen as Shechita is Valid even by a Non-Kohen. The ‘Matnos Dam’ (blood) do not require a Mizbeach per se, in a Korban Pesach just ‘Sheficha Keneged Ha Yesod’…

      I don’t think that having an Halachic disscussion as to the obligations of Korban Pesach makes someone a looney toon. Just like disscussions of female rabbis etc.

      Incidentaly the Sefer HaChinuch: Parshas Shemini, states that the prohibition for ‘Paskening while drunk’ applies to men AND WOMEN as women can pasken….

      I wonder if they’ll ban the Sefer Hachinuch for being too progressive…

    6. To #3: This just shows how entrenched in Galus we are if you can call this Rav insane and “belongs in an asylum”. You may disagree with him but insane? Because he wants to bring the Korban Pesach, is that insane? Are you uncomfortable with the concept of Korbanos? And to #1, why is being a religious Zionist an insult to Rav Tzvi Hersh Kalischer? He was the head of the Chovivei Tzion which was the forerunner to the religious Zionist movement.

      • Your torah ‘truth” is also known as apikorsus since most achronim clearly hold that it is assur to bring korbanos until zm’an moisiach and even then, we need to first be retrained in the halacha and any new inyan on how to bring a korban that moishiach may teach us.

        • Holding a different opinion than “most achronim” is perfectly legitimate for someone of R’ Kalisher’s(A”H) stature and for those who rely on his psak, and in no possible way is it apikorsus. He remains a da’as yachid, however. Some folks on this blog are far too quick to lable anything that they don’t hold of as apikorsus. In the past year or so that I have been following this blog, I have yet to see any post that even remotely resembles true apikorsus. People have different opinions and some folk’s view of proper hanhaga may be in error, but one sould be very carefull about tossing around gratuitous insults. calling someone who has a different opinion than you do an apikorus is not only a vicious slander but it undermines and cheapens the concept of true apikorsus.

          • Well said.

            Rav Eliyahu has a halachic basis for his arguments and we shoudl respect them even if we don’t think that Korban Pesach is advisable.

        • You my friend are an Am Haaretz… learn a little before you make categorical statements. If Rov Haam is Tammai you may bring a Korban with or without the Beis Hamikdash.

        • Interesting how holding a different opinion renders one as an “apikoras”. The very same ppl like you, never bothered looking into the correspondence in itself, the very fact that none of the Achronim at the time termed him of anything as the liking of apikoras” indicates enough, besides the fact, that theoretically they didn’t exactly refute Rav ZH Kalisher. For beginners, see the first couple of chapters in Shu”T Binyan Zion of the Aruch le’ner’ how he approaches Rav Kalisher’s psak. hmm lucky the gedolim at the time didn’t have the attitude of nowadays, as we wouldn’t even have any somewhat divrei torah correspondence altogether , as all they will respond were to be consisting of labeling the one as an Apikoras! BTW the Meiri (yep, the rishon, in mesechat Megilah) writes that in his times ,the minhag was that they did enter the “Har Habayis”. I guess according to the likes of you, they were all apikorsim!!

    7. This man is mainly inappropriately zealous about a time that he is not priviledge to live. This is not the time of the Temple and thus no sacrifices would be righteous. So exactly the opposite, if he does the sacrifice, he will in turn make the universe spin more out of control than it would if he waited for God to decide what time is right.

    8. #17, I really have no idea what you are talking about, but if you had any concept of Halacha as it pertains to Korbanos you would see how wrong you are. Just open up a Gemara or Rambam and you will see that the ability to bring the Korban Pesach is not limited at all or dependent on having the Beis Hamikdash nor is it dependent on us being Tahor. Now you may take the position that it may not be a politically smart thing to do and I can respect that point of view, but to call him crazy or that sacrifices need the Temple as you say is just plain wrong.

    9. I would put this Rav in the dame category as that idiot in Florida who burned the koran…even suggesting to bring a korban, or engaging in any other religious observance on the har habayis, is the same type of lunatic act that will get people killed since any spark can ignite another infitada. When Sharon, z’tl, went up to har habayis years ago, he probably didn’t realize the bloodshed that his visit would trigger.

      • “When Sharon, z’tl . . . “

        I am really sorry to disappoint you, anonymous #22, but former Prime Minister MGEN Ariel Sharon is still alive (if not exactly kicking) here in Israel.

    10. Original Korban was done in Eqypt so it shows we did not need the Beis Hamikdash.
      We will not bring it til the Beis HaMikdash is rebuilt. He wants to go according to his view but the frum olam does not agree

      • That was before we came to Yerushalayim. With that sevorah just bring it anywhere, like Egypt or Teaneck. Once the Beis HaMikdash was built, Jews were forbidden to have private altars outside of the Temple. But still, as mentioned above, you could possibl

    11. #2,

      Apikursis?!

      Actually, technically he’s correct! There are tshuvas from R Akiva Eiger and the Chasam Sofer that it’s not a problem of tumas meis if the whole kahal

    12. #2,

      Apikursis?!

      Actually, technically he’s correct! There are tshuvas from R Akiva Eiger and the Chasam Sofer that it’s not a problem of tumas meis if the whole kahal is tameh. The only problem is the mizbeiach….
      There are shittas that you can build it even now.

    13. That sheep in the picture is missing part of its ear and is passul for a korban.
      Several posters mentioning sacrifices outside of the bais hamikdash are incorrect; Bamahs have been forbidden forever since the first bais hamikdash was built.
      R’ Eliyahu has some valid points, but it is not advisable due to the political situation.

      • More Am Haratzus… we are talking about Korban Pesach not Korbanos on a Bamah… What happened to our Yeshiva system?… maybe the guys learning are not on internet blogs…

    14. This seems to arouse the same rabble every year. I’m sure that he (or some other) has been saying this for years.
      IY”H Moshiach should come before Pesach and everyone will bring a korban Pesach with no machlokes.

      • i was just about to write “do we have to go through this same …..?” but how you end your post on such a positive,geulahdike note,kol hakavod to you!

    15. To number 35,

      No one said the Korban Pesach should be done on a Bamah. It is forbidden by an open Pasuk Devarim 16:5.

      The issue at hand, is whether the ‘Makom Hamikdash’ is sufficient for a Korban Pesach or whether you require the actual Beis Hamikdash with The Mizbeach and Keilim etc. Tuma’a of the Tzibur, whether you count women in assessing the majority of those Tamei (impure), and who one counts in assessing a Majority are all side points. Even if this Rav’s opinion is a Daa’s Yachid why can’t we appreciate his desire to fulfill a Mitzva, that was the first mitzva we fulfilled as a nation.

      Speaking of Daas Yachid; the Zohar supposedly follows the ideas/rulings of Rabbi Shimon Bar Yochai and yet he is a Dass Yachid and (almost) everyone is fine with that. Even though we don’t pasken like Rabbi Shimon.!

      In the zechus of the spirited debate of Korban Pesach, we should all be Zoche to eat from the Zevachim and from the Pesachim…Bekarov…Amen

    16. Incidentally, I believe there is at least one (“non-Rabbinic”) sect in Israel that has been bringing the korban Pesach for years, though not in Yerushalayim.

      In any event, politics should not change the halachic status of whether or not the korban Pesach should be brought, though if it were appropriate then you’d think the major poskim in Israel and abroad would have said something by now. And I believe there are more Jews in North America than there are in, lihavdil, Eretz Yisrael.

      And that Ariel Sharon visit to Har HaBayis was clearly a pretext used by the savages who committed the barbaric murder that they get such great joy from, but it was not the real reason at all.

    17. It is said that the holy Belzer Ruv R’ Ahrele ztzvk”l made sure not to be Pessach in Yerushalayim so as not to risk that maybe he is supposed to make Korban Pessach but isn’t… so he always spent the first day in Tel Aviv etc

    18. Umm, I actually read R. Eliyahu’s discussion as opposed to the Ynet piece, which is typically designed to put Torah and rabbis to ridicule. After explaining his halakhic view on the permissibility of performing korban Pessah and the strict requirements that Jews must meet for this purpose, R. Eliyahu noted that the matter is academic since the Israeli authorities, fearing negative responses, won’t allow it. His recommendation on that account is to ask the authorities to reconsider. I fail to see in this any sign of derangement, extremism, or any of the ailments that some commenters find so obvious.

    19. ? Shouldn’t benay Torah be searching for ways to enable doing mitzvot, especially when the mitzvah is to do it for ALL our generations? And if “tumas meis” is the primary concern, don’t we have Pesach sheyni?

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