New Square, NY – Police: Hasidic Man Badly Burned In Religious Dispute

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    Police investigatingNew Square, NY – Police say a New York man has suffered severe burns during a fight over a religious dispute within his all-Hasidic Jewish village.

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    The altercation happened early Sunday in New Square in suburban Rockland County.

    Police say the 43-year-old victim fought off a village resident armed with an incendiary device. Ramapo police arrested 18-year-old teen on felony counts of first-degree attempted arson and first-degree assault. The suspect had serious burns to his hands and arms and has been hospitalized.

    No information on an attorney for the teen was immediately available.

    The victim also is hospitalized.

    Police told the Journal News that the victim’s family had been targeted before because the victim prayed outside the main synagogue used by the community’s grand rabbi.

    The Journal News is withholding the victim’s name.


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    Darek
    Darek
    12 years ago

    I don’t understand what’s going on here. Please enlighten me

    12 years ago

    I couldn’t understand it from reading here either the article is very confusing as to what happened exactly. But I read it somewhere else and the controversy is about the nursing home near new square where some people dave against the rabbis wishes so one of the chassidim tried to kill one of the guys who daven there. Here we go again terror for religion unbelievable

    Sam23
    Sam23
    12 years ago

    Police said they are aware that the Truman Avenue family had been targeted before with violence and protests by religious zealots because the victim prayed outside the community’s main synagogue used by the Skver Hasidic grand rabbi, the worldwide community’s dynastic leader.

    AuthenticSatmar
    AuthenticSatmar
    12 years ago

    The victim davens outside of skver and a few bochurim decided to take matters in their own hands. They attempted to firebomb the house but were caught in the act. There is camera recordings that caught him doing it, so it was easy to pick him up.

    12 years ago

    Reports are still very vague,but reports are coming in that a young yesivah boy of New Square attempted to burn down a house in New Square this morning. There were 4 people sleeping in the house. The owner of the house refuses to pray in New Square and prays in Freidwald, a nursing home outside the community. This was done to teach him a lesson.The victim Chaim Aaron Rottenberg had to be hospitilized with 3rd degree burns.There is confidential information that the surveillance video tapes were handed over to the Chassidishe Sheriff Koenig, if that’s in fact true, then according close to the investigation that the tapes “may disappear.”

    chocolate
    chocolate
    12 years ago

    Yep, anonymous got it right.

    Shoita
    Shoita
    12 years ago

    There is an official rule from the founding Skver Rabbi that everyone should Daven in the Main Beis Medresh. A few years ago a Minyan was started in Friedwald Nursinghome, OUTSIDE the community – which is according to the rule. The community decided that this is a threat (meaning ppl would start going there), so they made a new law, that Davening in this place is forbidden. When the participants didn’t obey, they started all kinds of terror tactics to get them to obey. Happenes to be that this attempt to burn down this house did not workout. You can rest assured that if it would workout well, and the house would be down in ashes the community leaders wouldn’t even blink – if nobody would be caught. In the past there were windows shattered and tires flattened on a regular basis. I hope this will serve as a wakeup call. The problem here is, that politicians turn a blind eye because they love the block-vote the Skver provides every time.

    lchaim
    lchaim
    12 years ago

    wow every one who went with terror had a bed end lets wait and see when they will have its not normal what boys can do even to attemped to kill

    MosheM
    MosheM
    12 years ago

    Der rebbe veist nisht….

    speakup
    speakup
    12 years ago

    Are these people crazy? No wonder Eretz Yisrael is in such trouble. We have a bunch of lunatics involved in, at best, narishkeit, and at worst, criminal activity. So instead of paying attention to matters of importance in the world, they’re busy burning down houses, or endorsing the burning, or turning a blind eye to it. Instead of getting involved productively in EY interests, or even at-home interests of significance, they resort to violence. For what? For what urgent cause? A bunch of meshugannehs, and now they are ALL responsible for a man’s serious injury. I don’t envy ANY of them come Yom Kippur.

    confusedmom
    confusedmom
    12 years ago

    What a crazy thing to do. My message to you, “grow up!”

    Satmar
    Satmar
    12 years ago

    STOP THE TERROR NOW!

    Mark Levin
    Mark Levin
    12 years ago

    Wow, so you r’shoyim are holding the Urinal News like its l’havdil Halocha L’Moshe M’Sinai.

    Shame on you!!

    understanding
    understanding
    12 years ago

    The victim Rottenberg is responsible for this outcome.
    He knew all the time that there are crazy youngsters around that can do dangerous acts, & decided to be “brave” & keep on living there without fear.
    So this “wise guy” learned a Lesson.

    WiseDude
    WiseDude
    12 years ago

    What an inspirational lesson.

    llrr1
    llrr1
    12 years ago

    Thats what the Rabbi Z”L wanted when he built the Shtatel.

    A_Simple_Chussid
    A_Simple_Chussid
    12 years ago

    What can one say???

    #Speechless

    skvererebbe
    skvererebbe
    12 years ago

    as long as the UN and NATO stays out bezras hashem yisborach !!!

    yaakov doe
    Member
    yaakov doe
    12 years ago

    Aren’t there halachic problems in burning a house and injuring people regardless of the reason?

    chess626
    chess626
    12 years ago

    Unbelievable! Why isn’t the victim moving out of New square? If he didn’t suffer enough till now, from now on he’s gonna be a mussir and they will be thrown rocks at him.. He should leave N.S. and start a life some place else.. Save your family and yourself and move out!!

    confusedmom
    confusedmom
    12 years ago

    This is unexceptable. There should be zero tolerance for violence and terror. No matter the supposed crime, you don’t resort to burning houses and injuring people. There is no excuse for such behaviour. I have zero sympathy for the young man arrested, or his family. The community needs to learn to raise their children bderech hatorah, not with all those supposed frumkeits that end up violating many torah laws. To all the Skverers please wake up before it’s to late. Don’t let these barbarians terrorize you in the name of frumkeit. Don’t pretend that the Rebbe wants or ordered this. Please, there are better ways to ensure that the Rebbe’s will is followed without resorting to terror tacticts, without harming other jews, or their property.

    12 years ago

    I find it ironic that this took place during Sefirah. I guess some people have no idea what it’s all about and miss it’s lesson.

    Der_Tzadik1
    Der_Tzadik1
    12 years ago

    aren’t you supposed to do “al tifrosh min hatzibbur”?
    Not that i’m judging or anything, but to me, this guy seems to be one of those “l’hachis” types, that he likes doing whatever he wants, so this is part of it. he knew what the results could have been!!
    just move out of ns and live your life the way you want if that helps the situation!!!

    LoveSquare
    LoveSquare
    12 years ago

    BTW Rottenberg tried selling his house and move out, but the guys did not let him sell it for the full amount since he went to daven at the home

    Vasserman
    Vasserman
    12 years ago

    Anyone who was willing to buy the Rottenberg home at fair market value would have had an instant deal. I know that he wished to move out for a while but was unable to. The Rebbe had to have known what was going on in his town. If you deny that then his gabboim certainly had to have known about the broken car windows, house windows, and demonstrations. The rebbe certainly could have put the word out to have the violence stopped and certainly refused to. All these actions were to defend the ” kavod

    speakup
    speakup
    12 years ago

    These people really need to have their heads examined. For every bit of pain they caused the victim, Hashem has ways to avenge their horrific crimes and make THESE THUGS AND THEIR ENABLERS feel the pain and yesurim tenfold. – Who said……. “In the end we will remember not the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends?”

    12 years ago

    Its a very sad situation that we find ourselves in. I fear we will see more and more of this extremism amongst us. Its a sad day for Judaism. Unfortunately frumkeit is nothing like what it once was. Sickening what I see happening. Sorry to say it, but, we better wake up soon.

    12 years ago

    Anyone have the victim’s name for tehillim?

    12 years ago

    I cant believe this is true – Jews trying to kill other Jews because of where they daven. I hope they catch the perpertrator and put him in jai and feed him treyfe. Why keep kosher if you are a killer.

    12 years ago

    Welcome to Al Qaeda and the Taliban of New Sqare (nothing new) they follow the same doctrine, from the leaders to the bombers, “Kill anyone that does not have the same beliefes as we do”. and yet there are still these comments that justify the vicious actions, and even blame the victim… I cant believe how many “Ipcha Mistabras’ there is out there plain twisted minds…

    SteveW
    SteveW
    12 years ago

    If what is being reported in these comments is true, then the world has indeed gone crazy. Not only do Jews have to worry about Muslim terrorists, Ku Klux Klansmen, rabid x-tians, now they have to worry about their fellow Jews.
    I am not Jewish, I am a Noahide, who is just trying to do the best I can in this world, and here, reported for the world to see, are the people who are supposed to be a light to the nations behaving worse than the redneck hicks I was raised with.

    12 years ago

    last time i checked loy sirtsach is one of the asares hatibres and if a rabbie cant make sure his chasdim adhere to it what is he good for? it does not say if somebody davinens in a diferent shul thats loy sirtcach doesnt apply thes guys are just like Al quaeda

    12 years ago

    chilul hashem at the highes level!!

    12 years ago

    murder between jews thats whats goin on shomer sumayim!!!

    ModernLakewoodGuy
    ModernLakewoodGuy
    12 years ago

    Sadly, this animal will be bailed out within hours after the town holds an emergency fund raiser to raise the 1 million dollars. There will be cries of anti semetism, strings pulled, connections used, and there will be no jail time.

    12 years ago

    My husband told me it’s on 1010 WINS. Steve W is right. Makes me sick.

    yossnech
    yossnech
    12 years ago

    Am I reading this correctly: He davened in a shul that was not approved and so they attempted to burn down his house?????
    Is that really the punishment for davening in a shul that the community disapproves of? Was it reform? A church?

    12 years ago

    You have to wonder who his parents are and what messages/themes he was exposed to growing up. This didn’t happen on a dare.

    12 years ago

    this is crazy!!!!!!! i feel bad for this victim and the boy he will have to si t in jail but it serves him rite!!!!

    shredready
    shredready
    12 years ago

    First where was hazhola where they called or they where called and decided not to show up?

    more stupid and dangerous behavior

    The attack came on the first night of Lag B’Omer, an ultra-Orthodox Jewish celebration involving dancing around bonfires. Fire departments in Hillcrest, Monsey, Tallman and West Haverstraw responded to 17 trash bin and garbage can fires between 8:01 p.m. Saturday and 12:35 p.m. Sunday.

    Ramapo police were later assisted by the Rockland Sheriff’s Office Bureau of Criminal Investigation fire unit and the Rockland County Computer Crimes Unit.

    idiots where are the parent of these hooligans

    chosen-nation
    chosen-nation
    12 years ago

    This is why so many of us don’t respect our rabbi’s anymore, they fight with each other, allow such behavior and just have there priorities MESSED UP. I become sicker by the day hearing such stories.

    hesheybrooklyn
    hesheybrooklyn
    12 years ago

    i will tell you one thing these people have to lose they’re authority and ownership of the shtaitel they dont deserve to have a shtaitel after they’re name its a shame for the old rebbe a charpe in a bishe

    shabos
    shabos
    12 years ago

    Rabboisay we gotta daven harder for a lot more ahavas yisroel within us, – we the readers of these posts, all the posters, and of course the people of this wonderful shtetl.

    itzik18
    itzik18
    12 years ago

    This has me so depressed. We have failed horribly if this could even be a hava amina to any heimishe bachur. I hope the Rebbe goes to make bikur cholim and ask mechilah – I used to have a lot of respect for this rebbe – I cant believe he approves of such a thing but he needs to fix this and throw out these bachurim – this story turned lag bomer into a less than happy one for me today and I havent been to skver in many years

    12 years ago

    This is not some youngster, or some drop out kid, tacking matters in his own hands. This is the Rabbi’s Gabbai! his name is Spitzer.

    12 years ago

    first-degree attempted arson R”L

    it’s what they call A-1 felony if found guilty its 15-25 years prison
    nice job kid !!!!!

    expatriate
    expatriate
    12 years ago

    they will be off to Israel before Spitzer starts talking.

    12 years ago

    The rebbe should go and daven in the other shul because of this to show he is against this terrorist attack. Sorry I hate to say this the rebbe knew and should throw out the BUMS

    12 years ago

    Lets get the facts clear:
    This boy had no plan to burn the house or to do any harm to the family. His plan was to make a fire near the house and immediately call the fire department just that this family will have to run out of the house and hopefully run out from New Square. To their bad luck this guy noticed that something is going on and came out and started chasing after the boy who got scared and threw away the burning towel which incidentally landed on this guy.