Mea Shearim – Four-Legged Chicken Sparks Debate over Kosher Status

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    Yoelish Krauss, a slaughterer, holds rare chicken with 4 legs, at a slaughterhouse in the Mea Shearim neighborhood in Jerusalem. June 28, 2011. Photo by Nati Shohat / Flash90.Mea Shearim – A four-legged chicken born in a Jerusalem slaughter house has started a religious debate regarding its kosher label, which can only be determined once it is slaughtered, according to local media.

    The twelve-toed chicken awaited its fate in a cage on the floor of Yoel Kroish family’s slaughter house, waiting for local rabbis to decide whether or not the animal was kosher, the Internet news agency NTN24 reported.

    If the legs are tied together, according to local rabbis, the chicken is not kosher. This they said could only be determined by slaughtering the animal.

    “I don’t know, for now we will give it to the rabbis to check if it is kosher or not. If it’s kosher, we will slaughter it, if not, we will see what to do,” Kroish said.

    However, the chicken may survive if Kroish decides to go ahead with his plan and sell the chicken to the highest bidder, media reports said.

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      • There is a din called yeser kinitul dami which can mean an extra limb is considered like there is a missing limb. So according to halacha this might be considered a chicken without legs.

    1. Nothing new.
      We’ve had them in Crown Heights several times, the renowned shochet Rabbi Turk would bring his interesting finds into the Crown Heights Kollel to show the Rabbonim and those of us learning shchita.
      He’s brought 3 legged chickens several times and at least once, that i remember, a 4 legged chicken.

      • While it’s “nothing neew” to you, it indeed is new to most readers including myself. Please stop thinking only of yourself and realize that not everything that’s reported is suooposed to be new to you.
        I’m sure that when that shochet brought the three and four legged chickens to your kolel there where also some show-offs who claimed that it’s “nothing new” nevertheless it was interesting for you and many others. Same applies here.

    2. For somone who is not a farmboy, how many legs is a kosher chicken supposed to have and where in the torah does it specify that a 3 legged chicken is treifus??

    3. Sorry, I can’t resist:

      A man was driving along a freeway when he noticed a chicken running along side his car. He was amazed to see the chicken keeping up with him because he was doing 50 MPH. He accelerated to 60 and the chicken stayed right next to him. He speeded up to 75 MPH and the chicken passed him up. The man noticed the chicken had three legs. So, he followed to chicken down a road and ended up at a farm. He got out of his car and saw that all the chickens had three legs.
      He asked the farmer “What’s up with these chickens?”

      The farmer said “Well, everybody likes chicken legs. I bred a three legged bird. I’m going to be a millionaire.” The man asked him how they tasted.

      The farmer said “Don’t know, haven’t caught one yet.”

        • curious Says: That is cote, but these 4 lgged guys look like they only use 2 legs the others appear to slow her down. Not a usefuil mutation if you ask me. ”

          Why would I ask you?

          Are you a veterinarian?

    4. waiting for the inevetable ignorant comment,that this chicken for sure, must be a GILGUL of somebody.
      maybe this chicken should be buried in the same grave together with the talking fish
      of Skvertown

    5. I remember a while back the KJ poultry had a posting of the same thing.
      To my recollection the Satmer Rebbe said that its not kosher as the Halacha says “kol hyeser kenotil dome” anything extra is as if its missing.
      Let’s see what the bdat”z will pasken.

    6. Very cute. The comments, that is. As expected. Chicken joke and all. Anybody here makes a living as a comedian? But seriously, why slaughter the rare bird? Surely there’s a farmer out there who’d be tickled to add it to his collection.

    7. According to the article, the chicken was born in a slaughterhouse. This is much more unusual than the extra legs. Most chickens are hatched, not born.

    8. The guy holding the chicken looks eerily familiar. Isn’t he the fellow that was featured on VIN a while back regarding throwing acid on not modestly dressed women in Meah Shearim? I believe VIN featured him in a video interview. Could there be any connection between a four legged chicken and acid in women’s faces? Or does Yoelish Krauss do anything it takes to be featured on Vosizneias? Just asking.

    9. to #13
      Its not mishugaas its a gemara in maseches chullin in the third perek daf 58 b that deals with simanei treifah that says kol yeser k’natul dami. it actually is dealing with a case very much like this, saying that an extra or missing hand is a mum (like for a korban) but not a treifa, and if it has an extra or missing leg, its even a treifa. obviously then, the issue is whether these limbs are considered legs or arms. See the mefarshim there for explanations.

    10. What got me was the gentle way he was handling the chicken, holding it and stroking it gently, THAT is a yiddishe trait that should be encouraged!

    11. That Yoelish sure keeps himself busy – The Eidahs Chief Whip, his museum of tzetlech, and a shochet as well! So much for the ‘unemployed bum’ stereotype!

    12. I have no idea how much a chicken costs, but i am sure that it is less than the time to go ask a shailah and involve everyone else in this foolishness.

      Ebay will easily give him much more than a regular chicken is worth, and if he put this to the side, he would made MUCH more money doing his job than wasting everyone else’s time.

      As a curiosity, if he wants to discuss this with his rov hypothetically, it is a wonderful time-waster.

      But you people weighing in halachically when not a single one of you is a dayan or posek, is a joke.

      And, unfortunately, the stupid jokes made here reflect a tremendous immaturity in VIN readers and writers.

      Get over this, stop wasting everyone’s time, and let the chicken be a pet for some poor family.

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