Sanford, FL – Supporters Of Fla. Shooter Fearful Of Speaking Out


    A protestor holds flyers during a rally outside the Texas State Capitol in Austin on Tuesday depicting Travyon Martin, the unarmed Florida teen killed last month.  The case has become a racial flashpoint that has civil rights leaders and others leading  protests in Florida and around the country. (AP Photo/Thomas Allison, Daily Texan)Sanford, FL – Trayvon Martin’s supporters pack churches, swarm rallies and wear hooded sweat shirts in solidarity while friends and family of George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who shot the unarmed teen to death, remain largely out of sight. The few who have defended Zimmerman have done so reluctantly, most fearing public backlash.

    Zimmerman, 28, has gone into hiding. His version of what happened on the rainy night of Feb. 26 has only trickled out from police and his attorney. Zimmerman said he was pursuing the 17-year-old Martin because Martin was acting suspiciously. He said he lost sight of the teenager and Martin attacked him as he headed back to his sport utility vehicle.

    Zimmerman told police he fired in self-defense and police did not arrest him, touching off widespread public outrage and protests across the country.

    Martin’s supporters believe race played a role in the shooting. Martin was black; Zimmerman’s father is white and his mother is Hispanic.

    “The family has had death threats, the father and mother, George has had death threats. Anything related to George is a target,” said Miguel Meza, who identified himself as Zimmerman’s cousin.

    George Hall, a retired Presbyterian minister, said he was Zimmerman’s neighbor for 20 years in Manassas, Va., until about 2001. Hall said Zimmerman and his brother attended church, and he wrote a recommendation for Zimmerman for a police academy in 2004.

    “Their parents taught them to treat everybody with respect. I’m tired of hearing about this race thing,” Hall said. “It could be an element in it … but I never would have thought of him as being a racist. His father was in the Army and was a white American and his mother was Peruvian. That makes him 50 percent Peruvian. A lot of stuff I hear, it irks me because people are drawing their own conclusions with very little evidence.”

    Meza spoke only briefly over the telephone to a reporter from The Associated Press. It wasn’t immediately clear if he had talked to Zimmerman since the shooting, but he said other relatives are afraid to comment publicly, even though they think he is being treated unfairly.

    “The media has been quick to demonize George, but Trayvon Martin was no angelic boy walking,” Meza said.

    Zimmerman’s attorney, Craig Sonner, has said in more than one interview that his client’s nose was broken during the fight with Martin.

    The Orlando Sentinel, citing anonymous sources, has reported that Martin grabbed Zimmerman’s head and banged it several times against the sidewalk. A statement from Sanford police said the newspaper’s story was “consistent” with evidence turned over to prosecutors.

    Sonner said the gash on the back of Zimmerman’s head probably was serious enough for stitches, but he waited too long for treatment so the wound was already healing.

    Zimmerman said he began crying for help; Martin’s family thinks it was their son who was crying out. Witness accounts differ and 911 tapes in which the voices are heard are not clear.

    Martin was at least 6 feet tall, several inches taller than the 5-foot-9 Zimmerman. Meza said Martin was not the child he appears to be in photos flashed across television and newspapers.

    “George was in a fight for his life,” Meza said.

    Martin’s supporters, including a host of outspoken celebrities and civil rights leaders who have appeared on television for the past two weeks, don’t believe Zimmerman’s story. They want him arrested and prosecuted, and his parents think their son is being painted in a negative light by a police department leaking information to the news media.

    The teenager was suspended from school three times this year. In October, he wrote obscene graffiti on a door at his high school. During a search of his backpack, campus security officers found 12 pieces of jewelry, a watch and a screwdriver that they thought could be used as a burglary tool, according to a school police report obtained by the Miami Herald.

    When campus security confronted Martin, he told them a friend had given him the jewelry, but he wouldn’t give a name. The Miami-Dade Police Department said Tuesday the jewelry could not be tied to any reported thefts.

    Martin had previously been suspended for excessive absences and tardiness and, at the time of his death, was serving a 10-day suspension after school officials found an empty plastic bag with marijuana traces in his backpack.

    His parents spent Tuesday at a forum organized by Congress on racial profiling and hate crimes. They spoke briefly before a Democrats-only congressional panel as cameras clicked noisily in front of them.

    “Trayvon was our son, but Trayvon is your son,” Sybrina Fulton, Martin’s mother, told the panel. “A lot of people can relate to our situation and it breaks their heart like it breaks our heart.”

    Eric Gross, who was Zimmerman’s classmate in high school in Virginia, said the shooting was surprising because he remembered Zimmerman as a “good guy.”

    “We had a couple classes together. He was just fun-going, got along with everybody that was in our classes,” Gross said.

    Another of Zimmerman’s friends said Zimmerman would tell the teen’s parents he’s “very, very sorry” if he could.

    Speaking Monday on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” Joe Oliver said Zimmerman is not a racist and has virtually lost his own life since the shooting.

    “This is a guy who thought he was doing the right thing at the time, and it’s turned out horribly wrong,” said Oliver, one of the few blacks to come forward in support of Zimmerman.

    Victor Rodriguez, who lives in Zimmerman’s neighborhood, said he often saw him walking around, but he didn’t know if that was part of his patrol. Now, he’s not sure what to think.

    “It makes you feel a little bit safe but knowing what happened and everything, it’s kind of like confusing in a way. We don’t want people to be in the neighborhood. You have kids running around. You don’t want robberies going down,” Rodriguez said.

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    1. We had this whole thing recently in England with a football player being accused of racism without any basis. This racism issue is sometimes taken out of hand. It’s better like this then c”v the opposite but sometimes people just go overboard with this. I for one have a strong feeling this Martin isn’t so innocent as he’s made to be but i’ll wait patiently till the courts decide what really happened instead of making own conclusions.

      • Yes, but the difference is, the whole city supported Suarez (with the possible exception of some awful toffees, but who cares about them?) and the team even showed up for a pregame with his likeness on their shirts, including Glenn Johnson! That would not be possible in today’s America. In this aspect the left won: so many people are so cowered that practically no one would want to associate with someone accused, no matter how preposterous that accusation is. In America, if you are falsely accused of racism, you’ll walk alone.

        • I agree with what yot say but the English media certainly blew the whole Suarez story out of proportion for the simple reason that he’s not English. He’s lucky to belong to such a club which had the strength to stand up against the media and the FA.

    2. Zimmerman’s supporters were in any way intelligent, they would do the following:

      1. Express disgust with the police department over their incompetence for losing most of the physical evidence.

      2. Demand that a proper investigation take place to ensure that the truth is uncovered.

      That’s all MOST rational people are looking for. Yes, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are doing their usual disgusting race-baiting, but everyone should demand that a proper investigation take place. We should ALL want that. Nobody should be so quickly acquitted (or convicted) without so much as a simple forensic analysis.

      • Hey PMOinFL, I watched an interview w\Mr Oliver – this man who claims to know George Zimmerman really well & can testify that he’s not racist, etc.

        Problem is: during the interview, it became more & more apparent that the guy hardly knows Zimmerman at all! He’s just an aquaintence! He didn’t even know Zimmerman had been arrested for assault & had to go through anger management courses! He didn’t even know that Zimmerman had aspirations to be a police officer, but was turned down multiple times! He didn’t even know that Zimmerman had called the police on black folks over 50 times in just the past few months! One of Zimmerman’s calls was to complain about a “suspicious pair of black, 7-9yr olds” playing in a driveway!

        Oliver knew NOTHING about any of this stuff…

        But now he’s quit his job, and is going on the talk show circuit EVERYWHERE, trying to make the case for Zimmerman?!?! Who’s buying his story?!

        It’s disgusting how people are gleefully HOPING that information will come out that shows Trayvon was some kind of degenerate black teen who was out to break into apartments the night Zimmerman shot him! People are HOPING this kid will be proven to be a criminal!

        But why?? Why is there almost NO defense of this poor kid, outside of the African American commiunities?! Why is everyone (who’s NOT black themselves) just HOPING this kid will turn out to be a thug?!

        People’s bigotries & prejudices against African Americans, is REALLY coming to light when it comes to this case! Wow!

        • Sherry, polls show that nationwide 75% of Americans think that this case is suspicious and should be investigated by an independent agency (State/Feds/etc.). In the state of Florida that number jumps to 87%. Clearly the overwhelming majority of rational people in this nation believe that something is wrong here.

          • Dear PMOinFL, thank you so much for sharing that statistic! Boy, if a person comes on here [VIN] for their information & to see how people were responding to this case… a completely different picture gets painted!

            Instead of people demanding justice for this kid… it’s turned into a political football, w\”conservatives” deciding Trayvon was nothing more than a thug & that the “truth” about what a terrible kid he was, will eventually come to light!

            Almost everyone on here is practically HOPING this kid will be proven to be some kind of monster! But where’s the focus on Zimmerman?? Why is no one on VIN looking at HIS background (ie: the assult charges, the anger management classes, the 50+ complaints to the police about black folks just BEING IN the neighborhood, including 2 little kids just playing in a driveway?), and seeing for themselves that this guy had an itchy-trigger finger & couldn’t WAIT to play vigilante?! Where are all the “comments” about Zimmerman & HIS background?! I don’t see hardly anyone coming on VIN who knows hardly anything about Zimmerman! They only seem to want to portray Trayvon as a thuggish black teen who was up to no good & deserved to get shot! It’s been unreal!

            Also, I totally support your right to carry a concealed weapon & in fact, I’ll go one further: I sincerely wish that Trayvon had been old enough to carry one too! He might still be alive today, rather than get hunted down, followed, cornered & shot, like a dog in the street!

          • (con’t)

            Also PMOinFL, I have to respectfully disagree w\you that this case is not about race. It’s true that race is NOT the main factor here & I stand by that. Al Sharpton & Jesse Jackson can make this whole thing about race if they want…but race is only a factor.

            However…. RACE IS A FACTOR! It is! You can hear Geoerge Zimmerman on one of those 911 calls saying the expression: “f***ing coons” right there on the phone call & talking about how “these guys” always get away, etc.

            Zimmerman called the police an OVERZEALOUS amount of times as well, JUST to complain that black folks were in his neighborhood! They weren’t even DOING anything! But they have him *on record* JUST complaining about people of color being around!

            Now if a young Jewish kid was killed like Trayvon & the killer could be heard saying “f***ing Shylock” (or some other derogatory reference to Jews), and had been KNOWN to complain to the police all the time about Jews in his neighborhood & how “they” always get away w\stuff…

            What would the Jewish community be saying about the killer THEN, PMOinFL?! There’s no way if George Zimmerman had treated Jewish folks in his neighborhood like this & eventually SHOT & killed a young Jewish teenager…

            That people wouldn’t say he’s an anti-semite?! Of course they would! And I’d be inclined to AGREE!

            So why is it SOOO hard for people to see through this man’s “story” about how Trayvon attacked him?! Why can’t people seem to accept the 911 calls, the screaming in the background, the racial slur, Zimmerman’s past…but are MORE THAN happy to accept that Trayvon was a “bad” kid, cuz he got caught *gasp* smoking pot ONE TIME?!

            People can EASILY accept that Trayvon is a thug…even w\OUT any proof that he was!

            And gee… I wonder WHY this is, my friend?!?! All due respect!

            Many thanx to you – Sherry

        • Sherry, I’m beginning to believe that you’re a black woman. You’re certainly being too defensive of the black family who has suffered a tragedy and whom most people, it just so happens, are speaking out for! Fact is, there is no proof yet to show the tragic shooting victim’s innocence, and still the white guy is being judged largely on the basis of emotions and assumptions. The world is becoming crazier every day!

          • actually, in a way you’re correct, because the white guy was judged based on assumptions. he was assumed innocent, so the police didn’t bother to properly investigate.

          • “Sherry, I’m beginning to believe that you’re a black woman. You’re certainly being too defensive of the black family who has suffered a tragedy…”

            LOL!!! What can a person even say BACK to a statement like this?! (lol) So if I’m sticking up for the family who has been MALIGNED on here by the way… I MUST be black?! Why, because if I wasn’t black… I wouldn’t or shouldn’t give a d*mn about this kid?! Only black folks “stick up for their own”?!?!

            Well shoot… can’t say I blame them, even if that IS true! It doesn’t look like too many people OUTSIDE their culture will bother to defend them!

            Seriously… if a young Yid died in the fashion Trayvon did & people were pretty sure the killer was an anti-semite… I would just LOVE to see how defensive you get about the kid yourself! Especially if you saw gentiles coming on here talking smack about the family & saying things like: “They probably never even showered or wore a suit a day in their lives until they got on tv” or “They never really cared about their child… until he died & they got made famous.”?!?!

            How would you feel if people (but namely gentiles), came on here talking LIKE THIS about a Jewish family?!?!

      • This isn’t a case about racism.

        Sadly, these pigs like Sharpton and Jackson who live to perpetuate the racial divide in this nation, are making it into something racial.

        This is a sad story about an innocent teenager who was shot.

        Why not demand an immediate and thorough investigation by an unbiased agency to determine whether criminal acts were committed? That’s all any sane, rational person is looking for.

        Between the race-baiters like Sharpton at MSNBC and Hannity at Faux News it is no wonder that the idiots of this nation (both left and right) are foaming at the mouth. They live for this! These guys live to stir the racial pot and make this case into something more than it is.

        If you get your information about what is happening in the world from a cable news entertainment program (those are shows after 5pm on MSNBC and after 4pm on FNC), or from a radio entertainment program, you’re a moron. You’re the lowest of low intelligence. Smart people know that Sharpton, Beck, Olbermann, Limbaugh, Ed Schultz, Hannity, Levin,etc. are all LIARS who say whatever they need to in order to keep their idiot audiences listening/watching because that’s how they make MONEY. Dummy.

    3. Another lynching courtesy of Al Sharpton and co. Anyone remember the Duke Lacrosse team case from a few years back? Those kids were tarred and feathered with no evidence. Rallys, protests… just like now. When they were finally cleared and the real story was exposed, all of the bleeding hearts disappeared and there was not even an apology.

    4. Why should they be afraid? Everyone knows white are the murderers and Blacks are the innocent victims, no? Because to say otherwise would be a racist statement.

    5. Could anybody explain this? ” his parents think their son is being painted in a negative light by a police department leaking information to the news media.”

      What matters is not if everybody finds out about his past, the question is, is it true? was he a rascal or a good kid minding his own business when he was shot! Was he a thief? or was he just taking a walk! or was he just looking for his next target!
      I hate it when the media, “good for nothing” politicians “don’t let a situation pass without taking advantage of it.” seemingly proclaiming that the real facts don’t matter, but their own fabricated facts are what matters! that goes for uncle al, obama, and all black panthers etc. If he’s innocent, he’s free! if not, there is a rule of law, press charges against him! don’t do what you claim “yo bro” was innocent of!

    6. To #5- I couldn’t agree with you more. Everyday in the USA, there are many homicides, assaults, rapes, and robberies perpetrated by Blacks against whites. The reverse is extremely rare. Yet, there is never any mention of Black racism, by the media.

      • If you believe that, you are DELUDED. It may be somewhat true in urban areas, but certainly not as a general rule. I’d suggest you pull your head out the sand and go check some actual FACTS. Your wildly off-base beliefs only make you look stupid.

    7. Being threaten with murder is violating Zimmermann civil rights and the FBI ought to get on the cause and anybody like the New black panther should be arrested immediately for agitating murder. Al sharpton should be locked up like he should have been with Tawana Brawley when it was proven it was fraudelent

    8. Is it any wonder witnesses are afraid to come forward? With the black panthers looking for blood, the victim’s family and supporters/race-baiters having played the race card with no evidence whatsoever to support that was the motive, and ignoring how the innocent trayvon broke Zimmerman’s nose and pummeled him into the ground, and of course the grieving mother who already trademarked 2 slogans so she can exploit her son’s death by making money off his name, not to mention the numerous lawsuits all those sharks smell, would YOU want to go up against all that fakery? You can be sure any grand jury/jury will be intimidated into giving the black mobs what they want, lest they start rioting.

    9. Firstly ive seen here on VIN the media lies repeated, Babishka wrote that Martin was a small kid 140 lbs when he was a 6’3 160 pound adult that likely knew how to fight viciously..

      Go ahead and discuss this, but to be judge and jury on a case you dont know the details and clearly use incorrect facts ?

      • Hispanic bigotry?! (lol) All due respect… but WHO is even bringing up the fact that George Zimmerman is Hispanic?! Who is checking into his past & making their opinions of him based upon the fact that he’s Hispanic?! Seems to me, that people are doing so because he stalked, cornered & shot a kid in the street like he was a dog, ok?!?!

        What don’t people understand about this?!?!

        And nobody called the kid (Trayvon) a “Saint” either! He was just a normal kid who got into trouble at school from time to time! He didn’t have a criminal record, he played football, he got pretty decent grades & had aspirations for college! So the fact that he got into some trouble at school LIKE A LOT OF KIDS DO, is totally irrelevant to this case!

        Trayvon was NO thug! Meanwhile…in George Zimmerman’s past, we see an assult arrest, anger management classes & a history of calling the police every time a person of color happened to walk through his neighborhood! One time, calling the cops on two “7-9yr old black kids” JUST playing in a driveway! Kids!

        I complain about this man Zimmerman NOT because he is of Hispanic descent! I can’t speak for others, but I know I certainly haven’t even *thought* about HIS race in all of this, because it’s irrelevant!

        But Trayvon’s race UNFORTUNATELY was made relevant… because it was relevant to Zimmerman! And THAT’S what makes this even a possible Hate Crime!

        And if the victim was a Yid & an anti-semite attacked him under the same circumstances…you can bet your bottom dollar that I’d be just as furious & would find it OUTRAGEOUS that the killer was out walking free!

    10. Sherry is just distorting this and making up facts… its of course fine for you people to know exactly what went down there with limited knowledge.. you know exactly zimmerman’s intentions and travyon’s intentions… you have violated the basic american justice and liberty of trial by a jury of your peers.. after all, you have already found zimmerman guilty because YOU KNOW…

      The torah requires 2 witnesses…we have here 1 witness that that according to the news says zimmerman was defending himself..

      I have not taken a side here, I feel like both are guilty and innocent…

      The real tragedy is closed mnded bigots like sherry who claim to know everything and rush in with racism to lynch a man that hasent had his time in court…

      Shame on you!

      • Once again you quote halachah and mix it up with American law. Here we do not need two witnesses.I do not know on the guilt or innocence of Mr. Zimmerman, but your comment confuses the issue. You have your right to your view on Sherry and your allegations that she makes up facts. You, however have added nothing…Shame on you.

      • Again… another liar.

        There is no witness to say that Zimmerman was defending himself. NONE.

        There is ONE witness who saw part of the fight and he states that in the 2-3 seconds he witnessed it appeared that Trayvon was on top. That is meaningless.

      • Why are you saying I’m calling Zimmerman a racist for NO reason?! You know d*mn well that man used a horrible racial slur on that 911 call & had already been overzealos in calling the police over NOTHING, every time a black person was in his neighborhood!

        And there’s other things… but I’m exhausted explaining it because hardly anyone seems to get that this guy was a bad dude – paranoid, suspicious, prejudiced against black folks & ALWAYS assuming they were up to no good… I could go on & on!

        I’m not assuming this stuff! It’s all in various plice reports for heaven’s sakes! Listen to some of those 911 calls! Wow. Just listen to Zimmerman *himself* on those tapes. Watch a little Independant news when you can!

        Everyone keeps saying “Sherry ‘acts like she knows…” (lol) No I don’t! I am looking at the situation AS IS! And what I see (based on so much info at this point) is a grave miscarriage of justice being done to a KID.

        If the kid was Jewish & the killer could be HEARD saying “f***ing whatever” (insert derogatory Jewish slur here, cuz I don’t even want to write one down anymore)…

        You don’t think I’d be on here demanding justice, feeling horrible for the family & ABSOLUTELY accusing the killer of being an anti-semite, based upon what I had heard about the killer’s past?!?!

        Come on!!! You might not like my political views…but you certainly can’t accuse me of not being fully supportive of the Jewish community & a fervent activist against anti-semitism in all forms! (As best as I can be- I’m not superhero, but you know what I mean. I’m just speaking from the heart here.)

    11. Before the public outcry, the police did nothing much. After the public outcry, the police do much. Perhaps the police did the right thing at first and are now doing the wrong thing? So let’s look at the Sanford Police Department’s history. No less than three recent cases of covering up for police family members and groupies. So given that history, I suspect that without the troublemakers yelling and screaming, Sanford Florida would have been very happy to bury another Black person with no public notice.


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