New York – Distribution Network Faulted For Gasoline Crisis In New York City; Could Last For Weeks

    29

    in this Nov 4 2012 photo Gas tankers line up near JFK airport. EliWohl/VINNewsNew York – In the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, drivers have been forced to endure long lines and non-working pumps in New York City and Nassau County, even as gasoline is much more readily available in most of New Jersey, Suffolk and north of New York City.

    A major factor in obtaining gasoline depends on where a region gets its supply from, industry insiders told the New York Times (http://nyti.ms/SF0NRk). The gasoline distribution system is “a sprawling, decentralized network” composed of different gas stations, all of which work with different distributors to ensure transportation of gasoline from regional terminals. The terminals receive and store gasoline which is deposited by tankers and barges. In New York City, many of the gas stations depend on distribution terminals located in Queens and Brooklyn. However, these terminals have either lost power, were damaged in the hurricane, or are not yet entirely operational. The Nassau County terminal based in Inwood, New York is also not fully functioning.

    As of yesterday, 75 percent of New York City’s gas stations remained without gasoline. In contrast, the regional average stands at 24 percent, according to Gasbuddy.com, a website which has been monitoring which New York region stations have fuel. Patrick DeHaan, an employee at Gasbuddy.com, points out that the pressure on the system is also made worse by panicked drivers who have “a sudden, insatiable demand for gasoline” and are stocking up on gasoline they do not immediately need.

    AAA Spokesman Michael Green said that even though power has been restored to many stations, the real issue lies with the distribution network. “This week, it is shifting more to being a supply-system problem: getting gasoline from storage to distribution terminals to gas stations to the car you drive,” he said. Nine out of 57 petroleum terminals impacted by the hurricane remain closed according to federal energy officials. Of those nine, seven are located in New Jersey, one in Brooklyn and one on Long Island.

    New Jersey gasoline terminals have bounced back more quickly than in New York City because most of the terminals in the southern part of New Jersey remained undamaged, and gas stations in that area are situated closer to key refineries and transportation routes. The rationing system has also helped to balance supply and demand.

    Ralph Bombardiere of the New York State Association of Service Stations and Repair Shops said efforts to resolve the gas shortage have been hampered by a lack of understanding on the part of elected officials about how the gasoline distribution system works. He notes that barges carrying oil could not dock at regional terminals for days after the storm because the New York Harbor was closed. “Someone in a tie should have said, ‘Where are the barges?’” he said. “It must have taken 10 to 15 telephone calls to get that message out. In case of a crisis, they have to start at the beginning.”

    Meanwhile NBC News is reporting that the Gas Crisis Could Last for Weeks.

    Follow VosIzNeias For Breaking News Updates



    Kosher.com is here to help you manage your home without the stress. Go to Kosher.com for recipes, menu planners, kids' activities, and more.



    29 COMMENTS

    1. Did Councilman Greenfield or Congressman Turner get any response from NYC officials to the press releases yesterday?
      Is this crisis actually going to last weeks? Is waiting online 2 hours for gas the new normal?

    2. WHERE ARE YOU GOVERNOR? WHERE ARE YOU MAYOR? DOES IT HAVE TO BE AAA EXPLAINING TO US WHAT THE PROBLEM IS? WE ELECTED YOU – NOT AAA!!!!! YOU SAY THERE’S NO SHORTAGE – COME TO BROOKLYN AND TAKE A LOOK! TOO BAD I DON’T HAVE ENOUGH GAS TO GET TO NEW JERSEY – I USED ALOT UP DRIVING AROUND LOOKING FOR GAS IN BROOKLYN!!!!!
      MAYBE YOU SHOULD EAT SOME POPCORN SO YOU CAN PRODUCE SOME GAS FOR US LOCALLY WHICH YOU WOULD EVEN BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE YOURSELF!!!!
      ALL OF US ARE GOING CRAZY – DON’T WAIT FOR US TO GO POSTAL!!!!!!

    3. ALOT OF US HAVE WASTED SO MUCH GAS LOOKING FOR GAS THAT WE ONLY HAVE A MEASLY BIT OF GAS LEFT –
      HOW ABOUT IF ALL OF US WITH THIS PROBLEM GO TO A DESIGNATED MAJOR BRIDGE OR TUNNEL AND STALL OUT THERE – I THINK THAT WOULD SEND THE RIGHT MESSAGE!!!!
      ANYONE WILLING TO ORGANIZE THIS????

    4. i heard( dont know if its true ) that bloomerg is behind all this bec he wants to controll the amount of cars that come into manhattan thats why only brooklyn part of ny still have shortage of gas!!! anyone has more info on that??

    5. NJ solution to gas problem: odd/even and relieve the long lines.
      NY solution to gas problem: 10 free gallons for everyone. Even people who don’t need gas will be lining up for miles!
      Just goes to show you the minds of a rational Repub Gov and an irrational Dem Gov.

      • Neither Governor controls the fuel depots and distribution centers. The stations have to depend on their regular suppliers or try and buy on the spot market.

        I never appreciated New Jersay until today!

      • I did that! worked like a charm. no wait times in and out of the gas station on Route 9 in less then 10 min. the whole trip lasted 1 hour and a half with a full tank of gas. I had to pay 20 dollars in tolls but whos worried about price right now.

    6. And what’s the excuse for not implementing some sort of rationing system, like odd-even days, as they are doing in NJ to help alleviate the crunch. This alone should cut the wait for gas approximately in half.

      • That is still not a solution
        We need gas that’s it . Wait another two weeks people will get sick of this and slowly everything will come to a halt.
        All the yeshivas tgst lost bussing in the flood will not have parents drive their kids if there is no gas

    7. The gas line siituation is uncivilized and deplorable.Group together and drive to White Plains,Tarrytown and any part of Northern Westchester.There are no gas lines ! But,most of county is out of power for 11 days…go figure

    8. Anybody know the what the gas situation is by the Holland Tunnel? I’d rather avoid the Verrazanow toll if I can…
      (of course I can take the Holland tunnel out and drive down to Linden, but that’s not ideall either)

    9. The solution is very simple:
      Allow gas stations to raise prices, and they will have an incentive to bring in gasoline from further away. This is simple economics. It works every day in every market (potatoes, cotton, gold, meat, you name it!) As long as the government interferes with the free market by insisting that gas stations don’t ‘price gouge’, the shortage will not end. I predict that gas prices only have to go up a dollar or two per gallon – and the problem will be solved literally overnight. (Why are prices allowed to go up when OPEC arbitrarily cuts supply, but not when an honest trucker wants to bring in gasoline from a few hundred miles away?) Its hard to believe that our elected officials don’t understand simple economics. Maybe if enough people forward this idea to their elected officials – they’ll wake up from their power-induced ‘hero’ roles and stop focusing on preventing ‘price-gouging’ and instead allow prices to go up in order to save their constituents hundreds of thousand of collective hours waiting in line….

      • Yours is a very rational argument, well presented. That’s exactly why it will be ridiculed by the subjects on the New York Soviet Socialist Republic who post here.

      • You are correct, except…..
        the problem is actually not the price. Its the laws. NY has a specific blend of gas that may be sold in the state. The NJ Governor through executive order abolished the NJ blend, allowing any and all fuel to enter his state. Our governor did not. So our stations have to wait for NY blend to get here, and only then can it be loaded onto trucks to distribute. the even odd days will do nothing, as the problem isn’t the cars, but the lack of gas. rationing may help, but again, people still need to get around, so rationing only helps for short times. The free market that is being suppressed is not the price, but the gas itself. the price will actually go down if we open to blends from other states, as gas from ct, pa, NJ, and even as far as Delaware will flood up top ny to fill our stations, causing prices to drop. that is simple economics.
        one last point, NY should drop the blend forever, as it is arbitrarily the stupidest law in existence. it has zero effect on the atmosphere, and only artificially raises prices.

      • Ok, so that’s why there’s an abundance of (cheaper) gas right across the river in Jersey, because it’s too expensive to bring it all the way in to the city?
        Makes a lot of sense…

    10. Why are New Yorkers so silly to Kvetch endlessly about long lines for gas and suffer needlessly when there is ample gas for everyone who wants it and even at lower prices in NJ only 20 miles away.

      Everyone can have all the gas they want with no line at all by just going to NJ.

      Easy and Simple and no need to Kvetch.

      As an Added Bonus:
      We cut Bloomberg out of the picture because this way, profits will go to NJ, instead of NY.

      • People who need the gas should go wherever they can find it, I’ll agree to that sentiment. However, you’re saying that it would be smart for NYers to go to NJ so that NJ can profit from NYers money and that would make us happy? Because we prefer to have less money spent in our own state? Or do you think we NYers think that Bloomberg (millionaire that he is) is somehow going to be hurt by us spending our money in NJ instead of NY and that we’ll all be happy that Bloomberg is hurt? It is somehow a ‘bonus’ for NY businesses to lose money? I’m trying to understand your meaning because it makes no sense to me at all.

      • “Everyone can have all the gas they want with no line at all by just going to NJ.”

        True, but that could be quite a shlep as well.

        I just went by the Holland Tunnel close to midnight and I had over a half hour of traffic getting into the tunnel…

    11. Come on New Yorkers, it seems like you all to lazy even to change a President, all you want is sit down and every think gets done by its self, get up with the black-hats as Bloooomy said and protest, what is this Poland?

    LEAVE A REPLY

    Please enter your comment!
    Please enter your name here