Monroe, NY – –The government sided with The New York Civil Liberties Union and the American Civil Liberties Union in a lawsuit against the Village of Kiryas Joel stating segregation based on sex in a public park will not be supported.
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A press release published by the NYCLU (http://bit.ly/1dLoEhM) states that they and the ACLU sued the Kiryas Joel in December over the segregation of men and women in a park. Women and girls were allotted a section of the park marked with red benches and playground equipment and men and boys were confined to blue areas.
The Kinder Park contained signs in Yiddish stating the red and blue areas designated for women/girls and men/boys.
The NYCLU and ACLU will drop their lawsuit but monitor the park for the next three summers to make sure segregation on public land is not reinstated.
I’m surprised even the Satmar would really believe they could get away with this kind of insanity. Its a PUBLIC playground, not a beis medrash. They KJ nutcases need to get a life and stop with this mishugaas. Rav Yolish, Z’tl, would never have approved such extreme chumrahs.
When you wish upon a star, make pretty damn sure its a star and not a toilet bowl in the sky. Really, this is quite annoying to read that the ACLU and other entities have to get involved in liberties that the most “orthodox” minds are creating against the hope of human intent and blessing. I can only think that Torah is the glass that many of these people fill with their wine and not with their hearts. This is a scandal. Israel does not survive by the lamp of indifference. A mechitza is a tool and not a broken pair of pliers. Torah is not broken down when the children play and if you think that you are going to grow in sensitivity and honor, you should really check your premises for separation of the calling against Time. Nothing should get in the way of normal social development. Values of tomorrow are not a bland issue of limited values for change. So if I can be so blunt, the ACLU is your main officer for a better future on this matter. Close your eyes, count to 100 and then check if that star is still in the sky.
The kids would play better with separate hours. Boys are too wild on a playground for girls to enjoy.
How ridiculous! What religion is that?! Little boys can’t go with their mothers and little girls can’t go with their fathers to the park. My little two year old son shouldn’t be playing with his next door neighbor a two year old girl? The only thing I would understand is if they would have separate benches for mothers/sisters/etc and fathers etc. to watch their kids in the park… Oh thank god I don’t live there!
I don’t get it. If it’s a private village park how can the ACLU tell them what to do?
They’re welcome to have a seperate gender park, but it would have to be a members only facility on private property
This is plain old anti semitism. Now how will these twerps enforce anti segregation , the men will just continue to go here and the women there. So they might try to bring outsiders to the park. Big deal. It will last 2 weeks. The leaders will just tell the folks to be nice to them. They will eventually go away.
So the signs will come down. But the people using the park will know which section they should utilize. Will these “monitors” FORCE them to mingle so that there won’t be any hint of segregation? SERIOUSLY?
I just want to clarify (to the haters, jews and non jews alike) this park is located on land owned by the village of KJ. It was built and is being maintained by the village of KJ. I visit the park with my husband and kids together as a family. Upon entering the play area I sit down with the ladies and hubby joins his friends at the mens area. My kids run all over, pink park and blue park. Sometimes we visit public parks and the kids run all over there as well, and hubby and me sit on one bench then. I don’t understand whats the big deal here. I don’t schmooze with hubbys friends and hubby doesn’t schmooze with my friends. That’s what tznuies is all about.
Does anyone really think if they had one orange colored park & one green that it would make a difference? The rebbe & his cohorts would still tell everyone that this park is for boys & that for girls! Even without the signs posted, They have segregated sidewalks!!! And woe to those who don’t listen… you’d be playing with fire!
Whats the probelm with spearate as long as its equal. If ladies are not discriminated any more than men whats wrong. Its only if they get worse facilities due to being separate.
how about parve parks? for those that mish. and then seprate parks for litvaks and chasidim.(dont laugh, there are seprate parks for both satmars)
I love this site! we adults could fight like little babies, maybe we should bring this to the park and see who wins!
What does a father do if he takes his daughters to the park? He gave time off for wife and he only has girls. #27 u are so right. This all sounds like chosid shoitah to me.
Anyone ever hear of Brown v. Board of Education or the 14th Amendment?