Jerusalem – Divine Punishment: Yated Says Israeli Government’s Charedi Draft Caused Kidnapping Of Israeli Teens

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    Ultra Orthodox Jewish man walks near the family home of abducted teen, Eyal Ifrach, in Elad on June 18, 2014. Eyal Ifrach is one of the three Jewish teenagers who were abducted while hitchhiking in the West Bank, and have been missing since the eve of June 12. Photo by Yossi Zeliger/Flash90 Jerusalem – In a scathing article that appeared in today’s Yated Neeman, the Israeli newspaper holds the government of Israel responsible for the kidnapping of three teenage boys.

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    As reported by Arutz Sheva, Thursday night’s act of terrorism is a direct result of the Israeli government’s effort to draft Chareidim into the army.

    “Statistically, every time that the government has tried to harm those who learn Torah, something terrible has occurred.”

    The Yated article says that the kidnapping of three boys who have no military involvement but were just going home to their families violates the standards of justice even for terror organizations and goes on to lay the blame for the kidnapping squarely at the feet of the Israeli government.

    “The government has done all that it can recently to endanger the lives of those who live in the holy country. Our lives here are not typical. We are here only by way of miracle and as described in parshas Bechukosai, if we follow the Torah then there will be peace in the land and there will be no reason for fear. But this government of corruption does everything in its power to uproot the Judaism from the lives of the Jews. Aside from the laws that have already been enacted, there are three more laws waiting in the Knesset that will further endanger the lives of all Israeli citizens, whose safety is guaranteed only by the performance of mitzvos.”

    The article describes the Chareidi draft laws as “Draconian” and explains that once enacted, they imperiled the lives of those who live in Israel, by removing those who are in the “true army” that safeguard the country, those who learn Torah, creating a status of impending danger.

    Determining who is at fault is pointless at a time like this, continues the article.

    “We are all guilty. Every Jew is responsible for each other and when a tragedy like occurs, it means Hashem is talking directly to us. To all of us. The Chofetz Chaim explains that there are no prophets today but Hashem talks to us in other ways….There are those who blame Chamas and other entities but we don’t look to cast guilt. We need to turn our ears to the voice of truth. Hashem is talking to us directly. Are we not going to listen?”

    NOTE: The English newspaper Yated Ne’eman sold in New York has no relation with the Hebrew Yated sold in Israel. it’s a total different news Organization


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    Buchwalter
    Buchwalter
    9 years ago

    This is pure apikorsis and they are worse than goyim, minevulim

    MalachHaMooovies
    MalachHaMooovies
    9 years ago

    Absolute classic…this and only this is the reason!

    Buchwalter
    Buchwalter
    9 years ago

    These fine erliche Yidden must have someone in their families who was gassed in a gas chamber what punishment was that

    5TResident
    Noble Member
    5TResident
    9 years ago

    I love these nutcases who think they can speak for God.

    ChareidiMan
    ChareidiMan
    9 years ago

    Absolutely disgusting and irresponsible reporting and I hope the author of that article finds a reason Chas veshalom when a relative of his has a bad moment and looks at himself for the reason.

    How dare someone insult the family of these young precious kids by explaining the reason? how dare they lower themselves and play G-d with no compassion? is there a wonder why we lose our youths in masses to the OTD movement every single day? What keeps us here? these type of radical unhearted reporting? disgusting!

    9 years ago

    If anything its not the Israeli government at fault rather its the charedim who never miss a change to sow sinas chinom. My torah which states bzes apecha tochel lechem. Its the charedim’s baseless bashing. Anytime the government wants to institute any senseable reform they call them anti charedi.
    Yeah I know you will all tell me about that one charedi army soldier who was forced to listen to a lady sing. We don’t make claims based on one rotten apple. Lamsa there is no proof of systmatic anti charedism amoungst the non frum.
    Bottom line is the truth hurts. The charedim are burnning mad that they now have to work. In other words society has a whole can’t just live off support. And the biggest proof is ;
    1) why have the cahredim never embarced Vadas Tal? Why was R Aron Lieb belittled for it? Note VADAS TAL IS NOT NACHAL CHAREDI. Vadas Tal was for mature yingerlit who were allowed to do some 3 month national service then they can work.
    2) Now under the new law those currently over 22 are free to work with no army service. So why are adopting kolleim? I don’t see any intiatives to promot jobs.

    PS I don’t expect ALTER G to answer any of my arguments. He will say his piece & walk away

    shimonyehuda
    shimonyehuda
    9 years ago

    are we sure the reason is women not wearing tznius enough clothing? if that is the cause we must make all women wear burkas and cover their faces etc

    Barzilai
    Active Member
    Barzilai
    9 years ago

    No no no, the lines you quoted are from the Yated’s Humor Column. Only a mouth breathing idiot would think that bnei Torah were harmed because the government is attacking limud hatorah, so it’s obviously tongue in cheek. Boy, some people are so dense…..

    yid613
    yid613
    9 years ago

    Just a question for the Yated.
    What is this information going to accomplish?
    Can you imagine the pain you just caused these poor parents?
    I’m so sick of this.

    Oy lecha Lyom Hadin, Oy le ha Lyom Hatochacha!!

    Tiefer
    Tiefer
    9 years ago

    I think each person needs to look at their own actions and think what they can do to better themselves. This sounds like a typical pseudoscience approach. And throwing in the Chofetz Chaim doesn’t make it true…

    abeytt03
    abeytt03
    9 years ago

    This is beyond absurd and incredibly insensitive.

    Hopefully Rabbonim will speak out against this article/view.

    It’s really disappointing to read and hear such things.

    Speaksoftly
    Speaksoftly
    9 years ago

    While the draft law and the language used to deride Chareidim are both objectionable, so too is giving cover for the abominable actions of terrorists. By kidnapping boys coming home from yeshiva, there is less Torah being learned ,not more. This is not Tach V”tat – so please don’t reprint opinions that serve to inflame and divide Klall Yisroel by giving reasons for tragedies. Tragically, there are no neviim today who can speak with can speak with clarity, emes and no political axes to grind. H-shem – please send Moshiach now!

    bubii
    bubii
    9 years ago

    This kind of talk that its the governments fault is the talk of someone who is mentally deranged nothing less.

    9 years ago

    The sheer waste of ink spilled on this article is sad. This type of blame adds no value, and is just foolish. I happen to think Chareidim should do national service (not army, unless they want to), but either way, the ignorance of thinking that there is a direct correlation between their objection to policy and 3 boys being kidnapped by terrorists exemplifies why others view the Charedi population as beyond arrogant and as an enemy within.

    chosid
    chosid
    9 years ago

    I’m just going to state the obvious: The Yated in Eretz YIsroel is and for a very long time has been a sad excuse for a newspaper and has no connection to Judaism or its adherents.

    PaulinSaudi
    PaulinSaudi
    9 years ago

    So he is saying the terrorists are somehow agents of God? This is a very interesting theology.

    Gitzuger
    Gitzuger
    9 years ago

    Not opening the can of worms if its right or wrong, but either way its not nice to take a ride with someone elses tragedy. There are parents not sleeping at night worrying where thier children are, and then someone says its your (our) own fault, if not blah blah blah nothing would of happened. Its disgusting to say so. No matter your opinion on the army draft

    mustsay
    mustsay
    9 years ago

    Despicable.
    Don’t come to my house for $$$$$$

    ChachoMoe
    ChachoMoe
    9 years ago

    Let’s take this a step further; the very initiation of the Haredi draft is a punishment of many hardim not learning seriously. Period!
    Had all the hardim been serious about learning and serving HaShem the way they are supposed to, this draft decree would neve have been in the making…

    SandmanNY
    SandmanNY
    9 years ago

    I wouldn’t line the bottom of a bird cage or a cat box with pages from the Yated. They are not “neeman”. They have their own narrow worldview and want to remake Yiddishkeit in their own distorted image. Hashem help us and save us from ourselves.

    mustsay
    mustsay
    9 years ago

    I can’t say it any better than most of these posters here.
    For once, there is unity in our pain for these brave parents and heartache for these 3 young boys.
    Would that this sad event, which we all hope and pray will end well and soon, I”H. , will be the beginning of a unity of Jews everywhere… In that alone this will have been a momentous accomplishment.

    9 years ago

    I am not sure if you can really think that a publication that auspices to promote its own self-taught agenda of loss prevention against solid discretion of human achievement can ever be a paper of any choice for a growing Torah Soul. Overall I subscribed to Yated half a year ago and it was delivered every week to my email. After finding that there was no great Torah education in the very unhealthily unrefined pages of mistrust for Torah’s convections of trust in the pages, I no longer even read this paper that I have paid for in the year gone by. I find that the world of Yated is promiscuously absent from human living affairs. Still, if I had too much time with nothing to sample in the news, it might be somewhat relevant.

    This is a very upsetting assessment about why there are horrors in our community. Hashem is not a G-d of hate for the whole community because someone in the articled discretion of dishonorable creed does not like his sampled wine. The orthodox will certainly have to serve in the IDF just as the vanguard did in Joshua’s time. Who are they to think that G-d is their Pharaoh. Never Again.

    Insider
    Insider
    9 years ago

    Carefully reviewing Shulchan Aruch Orech Chaim 329, Paragraphs 6 and 7, we do not find any exceptions. Everyone is required to rise in defence even on Shabbos. If anything, our collective punishment is being caused specifically by those that are not fulfilling their halachic obligations. In other words, is is none other than the Yated Neeman editorial crowd that is causing these terrible events.

    Deveee
    Deveee
    9 years ago

    Is Parshas Bechukoasai too much for you? Also insensitive?

    pugsrule
    pugsrule
    9 years ago

    All the anti-government and anti-IDF folks in Israel ought to be left to their own devices- no army protection, no government funds, nothing. We won’t have to put up with their garbage anymore, suffice to say.

    TruthIsIt
    TruthIsIt
    9 years ago

    Please cancel my subscription of : Yated Neeman

    9 years ago

    DISGUSTING !!! almost like the NY Post on Stark !!!!!!!!!!!

    9 years ago

    The person who wrote this article is KORACH ,it is only fitting to write this article on the week that we read KORACH.

    9 years ago

    EVERY real FRUM Jew MUST boycott that news paper.

    HankM
    HankM
    9 years ago

    Cool, Yated has added niviyim to their editorial staff, good news!

    snaged
    snaged
    9 years ago

    boycott the yated, and you’ll see how fast they change their views

    9 years ago

    don’t the palestininians do the same thing? they kill us and then say that it is our fault they killed us. the yated is no different. we were kidnapped and its our fault that we were kidnapped. classic oy lerasha oy leshcheino.

    sane
    sane
    9 years ago

    The Yated is against the State altogether. If only the PA would rule E.Y. then all would be well.

    9 years ago

    sick!

    honestbroker
    honestbroker
    9 years ago

    A perfect example of why I haven’t brought that rag into my house for the last few years

    DanielBarbaz
    DanielBarbaz
    9 years ago

    I have heard that Gedoilim are now saying that all the current tzuris: in Iraq, Benghazi, Syria, the Release of terrorists in exchange for the deserter Berghandal etc etc were due to their Assifa against the Internet and their refusal to support Chareidim to serve in the IDF.

    9 years ago

    What a DISINGENUOUS vile article. Actually, they have it backwards, DAFKA it it BECAUSE they refuse to serve in the army these 3 precious children were kidnapped. If the children of whoever wrote this disgusting piece of filth had been serving in the army, there would have been more soldiers around to protect them.

    The_Truth
    Noble Member
    The_Truth
    9 years ago

    These may not have been chareidim who were kidnapped, but they are yeshiva bochrim. The absurdity of the article / statement notwithstanding, it contradicts itself – first it blames, then says its no time to blame anyone. It sounds like an editorial piece without backing of any rabbonim, though I may be wrong.

    rationalman
    rationalman
    9 years ago

    how dare the writer attempts to boost his drivel by quoting the Chofetz Chaim. We don’t know the ways of Hashem. we pray for things to make sense and for outcomes that we can understand and appreciate. but for the write to insinuate that he knows the reason things happen is proof of his mindlessness and a testament to the quality content of this dreadful publication

    9 years ago

    what a disgrace these so called jews . ho re you to pass judgement ? are you god ? now we see why hundreds of our children turn away from judaism . its people with this view who bring disgrace and chillul hashem to us jews .

    Pragmatist
    Pragmatist
    9 years ago

    When we had nevi’im, they were able to communicate with heaven and tell us why tragedy happens. Then for 2500 years this insight was lost. Now that we have the Yated, prophecy has finally made a comeback. I can’t thank them enough. I am so excited that I am considering publishing an addition to NACH, we’ll call it Sefer Yated – it will include all of their heavenly inspired editorials.

    benvin
    benvin
    9 years ago

    Wow. I still don’t believe my eyes. Has the Yated gone insane? I don’t know what tp say, but I think we should have just not published this and not too many people would have known about this article. In the US, other than Lakewood, I don’t know if too many people read the Yated. So, if possible, please remove this article and ger Arutz Sheva to remove it and shush.

    Dr. E
    Dr. E
    9 years ago

    B’feirushe passuk. See Bamidbar 22:28

    9 years ago

    You all should understand when a crucial moment like a kidnapping comes up it is an eis tzara and you need zechusim to receive the proper seyate dishmayo , the government and army leaders by fighting Hashem and his Talmidei Chachomim they block like a road block the help they want to get , so change your course and unblock the blockage you created and take Hashem on your side then watch the help flow.

    favish
    favish
    9 years ago

    how is this punishment for draft?

    Secular
    Secular
    9 years ago

    The author of this article is intimating that the tragedy befell those who side with the ‘Corrupt government’. Insinuating that this is their comeuppance for enacting ‘draconian’ laws. It’s as if the tragedy only befell the secular and (modern) orthodox sector and not the Chareidi sector as the abductees were not Chareidi. Sounds to me like they are Poresh from the Tzibur !

    RambaM writes : Teshuva 3:11
    הפורש מדרכי צבור אף על פי שלא עבר עבירות אלא נבדל מעדת ישראל ואינו עושה מצות בכללן ולא נכנס בצרתן ולא מתענה בתעניתן אלא הולך בדרכו כאחד מגויי הארץ וכאילו אינו מהן אין לו חלק לעולם הבא

    dontsaywhatyoudontknow
    dontsaywhatyoudontknow
    9 years ago

    This clearly says the Israeli Yated. There is NO connection to the American Yated… Everyone RELAX

    9 years ago

    a real shanda ! any frum yid would stop buying this paper !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    sechelyoshor
    sechelyoshor
    9 years ago

    Are they for real? I stopped getting the Yated over a decade ago. They just worse and worse. Feh!

    sane
    sane
    9 years ago

    Fools march where angels do not dare tread.