BNEI BRAK (VosIzNeias) — A Yeshiva bochur who got engaged last week discovered to his consternation that his Rosh Yeshiva, rebbes and friends did not show up to the vort and will most likely not even attend his wedding. The reason? The bochur is considered too young by his yeshiva to be getting married, since he is only in the fourth shiur, known as “kibbutz aleph”. The yeshiva’s policy is not to allow bochurim to get married before kibbutz beis or their fifth year in the yeshiva(generally this is about age 21)
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The bochur who got engaged is the son of a prominent Talmid Chacham and attends the prestigious Ponovezh yeshiva in Bnei Brak, but the yeshiva has placed a moratorium on getting married before kibbutz beis and forbids bochurim from participating in such simchas. This practice is prevalent in a number of Yeshivos in Israel, since the Roshei Yeshiva are concerned that the weddings will cause a loss of intensity among the other bochurim in that age group and this will impact on their learning and on the rest of the Yeshiva’s studies.
It should be noted that in Chasidic yeshivas the bochurim are encouraged to get married early, at age 18 or 19, in accordance with the Mishna “Eighteen is the age to wed.”
No comment on yeshiva policy. Sometimes they are are quite reasonable, other times somewhere close to crazy. But I fear that there is an obvious point completely overlooked.
I believe that Klal Yisroel has never witnessed as many divorces and failed marriages as occur these days. There is no single reason for it, despite the tendency for writers and commenters to shower blame at women, men, rabbonim, lawyers, etc. Having stated this, I do believe that one factor that is almost universal is the lack or preparedness for marriage. Learning “גופי הלכות” accounts for one small part of the marriage. There is much else to the relationship, and none of it can be taken for granted. When and how are all these areas taught? The teachers of chassanim and kallos, often doing far more than was done a generation earlier, are still far from the goal. Maybe earlier generations required less instruction on this. But to anyone that deals with couples in crisis, this factor stands out above the others (and there are usually many others).
Much more important than the ages of the chosson and kallah is the maturity they bring to the relationship. Any policy on that?
Great policy.
Long live the chashiv rosh Hayeshiva and the bochurim. They will be creating Moshicha
Is there any difference if the chosen is 18, 19 or 20? Mazel Tov to the couple. Brocha v Hatzlocha
Literally not news the way this is reported. It’s more like gossip
What’s their minimum age ?
couldn’t they have done this quietly? it’s putting people to shame in public, probably the worst sin around !
shame on those so-called ‘rabbis’
In general , schools and yeshivas rules are nor not a secret before you apply, begin there. Choose to follow , or go elsewhere. Or understand the ramifications of breaking it. To the comment on embarrassment, I dont see public humiliation here other than matzav reporting it and this groom likely isnt on matzav. Noone expected otherwise I’m sure. Perhaps they broke the rule with daas torah, still the yeshiva needs to uphold and enforce policies otherwise they become unimportant and the yeshiva a non serious laughing stock
Chasidic yeshivas the bochurim are encouraged to get married early, at age 18 or 19, in accordance with the literal interpretation of the Mishna “Eighteen is the age to wed.”
This sound like the reform speaking, “literal”? that’s what it says load and clear.
The chasidim don’t light a fire a shabbos, in accordance with the literal interpretation of the posuk ‘you shall not light a fire on the Sabbath’.
How old is the chosson here? Article fails to mention it. Not much reporting here.