WATCH: Orthodox Jews Stand Guard With Assault-Style Rifles In Monsey

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    Armed members of the Jewish community stand guard at a celebration, Sunday, Dec. 29, 2019, in Monsey, N.Y. A day earlier, a knife-wielding man stormed into a rabbi's home and stabbed multiple people as they celebrated Hanukkah in the Orthodox Jewish community. (AP Photo/Ted Shaffrey)

    MONSEY, NY (AP) – At a Hacnusas Sifer Torah celebration in Monsey on Sunday that was planned before the shooting, several members of the community stood guard armed with assault-style rifles.

    They refused to give their names when approached by an Associated Press journalist, but they said they were there to defend their community.

    Armed members of the Jewish community stand guard at a celebration, Sunday, Dec. 29, 2019, in Monsey, N.Y. A day earlier, a knife-wielding man stormed into a rabbi’s home and stabbed five people as they celebrated Hanukkah in the Orthodox Jewish community. (AP Photo/Ted Shaffrey)

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    77 COMMENTS

      • To ‘Yingala’- Are you a Yid or an xtian who believes in being a ‘lamb’ of yoizele who ‘sacrified’ himself and turned his tuchas cheek? Are you a Jewish doormat, a shlep in exile and a perpetual victim? Like in ISRAEL, shtarker Jews fight to win and survive. Unless you enjoyed 1933-1945.

        • Are you frum, or were your opinions influenced by the freiaken in exile who created the state of Israel? Exile is real and we will continue to be victims until we do tshuvah. Guns will only make things worse Like In Israel where jews are in constant danger.

          • Yingale you are taken speaking like a nahar as a son of holocaust survivors I can can tell your a young inexperienced person in life and if your not then your just plain foolish Yaakov ovinu prepered to meet eisov son Yisroel with gifts and WAR!! Maseh oviyes simmon leahbonim! Yes we need to daven & learn but we Must defend ourselves how are tzaddikim & tens of thousands of chasdim living in Eretz Yisroel Because of the SO CALLED TZIONIM that gave their lives so we could live there! Wipe your nose and go back to chayder and learn reality! Unless you want to die as a Jew bit not live as a Jew remember it says behchayacho!!!!

        • Jesus is Messiah, Yeshua, Adoni. Did He turn the other cheek when he destroyed Pharoah’s army to free the Jews from Egypt? Did He turn the other cheek when He led your people to the Promised Land? Did He turn the other cheek when He brought down the walls of Jericho? When He made you His chosen?

          • Man, are you in the wrong place.

            Your entire religion is “textually” grounded by a mistranslation in Isaiah of the Hebrew word meaning a young girl from 12 to 12.5 years of age (n’arah)…which Christian texts incorrectly translate as virgin (besulah in Hebrew).

            Read the original!

        • When Yakov was preparing to meet Eisav, he davened, he sent the gifts to appease a goy and he also prepared for battle. The same did Yehuda when he pleaded with Yosef in Vayigash. He davened, he used the power of verbal persuasion but he was prepared to fight as well.
          Yingele, use the example of our forfathers.

      • Spoken like a real fool..

        Need I remind you that the vast majority of Jews murdered by the Nazis were your heimeshe yidden.

        Of course you wouldnt know that because you were taught that the Zionists worked with the Nazis to kill Jews.

        My grandparents who were Chassididim from Poland and southeastern Slovakia davened their way to Treblinka and Auschwitz.

        If you never heard of these places.. google it.

        Today we have a strong Israel with a strong army.

        The choice is yours..Stay in golus, daven you way to heaven and eat the crow the goy gives you.

        Or you can be proud strong and Jewish in your own country.

      • You are an anti semitic fool this has nothing to do with idreal but Jewish lives in the sixties when Williamsburg was having major problems they took protection into their own hands. And ghosts what’s happening hear
        I’ve heard there are now frum news carrying on shabbos

      • Clearly, that hasn’t freaking worked. We have to do our own heshtadlis, and giving ourselves security with heavy arms will hopefully work. I can’t even believe your ignorance.

      • I was thinking about your comments… It seems that you are infected with the mentality that when faced with such a situation you go through several stages:

        First – We don’t need guns as this is was an isolated incident
        Next a few more incidents – Oy, it is not the Jewish way to get guns, we must daven
        Next – This is a gezera min hashamayim, even more tefillos and guns won’t help
        Finally – It is the Zionists fault

        Never would you consider actually doing anything that might actually count as histhadlus.

      • In the Torah does Hashem tell us to daven about Amalek or was it a mitzvah aseh to wipe them out? Being a doormat for evil is a chillul Hashem, just like sinning in public with a kippah on your head.

      • You obviously don’t care about Jewish blood, otherwise you wouldn’t be speaking this nonsense!
        The two things go hand-in-hand, one does not negate the other!

      • No question about it. The ikar is teshuva, and more Torah Learning.
        Then there is the ma’aseh itself. We know there is a gezerah unleashed; we see it now every day. So b’sha’as ma’aseh itself, if one faces that matzav, then m’mah nefshach: either the oyev is zera shel Amalek, or he is a stam rodef. In both cases, its a mitzvah d’oraisa to take the guy out. Michiyas Amalek is a chiyuv b’dor dor. And l’gabei radifus, stopping the rodef is also a chiyuv m’d’oraisa.
        L’ma’aseh, all of those things are mitzvos min hatorah m’doraisa.
        We have to do teshuva and strengthen learning in response to the gezerah. And we have to be able to intercede and respond appropriately in the moment.

    1. We have to defend and protect ourselves; we appreciate law enforcement. However, it can take a few minutes for the cops to appear. During those few minutes, Jews can be killed. Hence, any legal proactive steps which we can take, is more than welcome.

    2. I just wonder how much training these young boys have especially threat assessment. Probably very little. Not a very safe scenario.While I never leave me house or go to shul without my 357 S &W or Glock 40 Cal I have had 6 years in the US Army as a combat vet & 25 years of law enforcement. and yes I am shomer shabbos.

    3. G-d Guns and Guts made Israel free…

      Bs’ers, lawyers and drei kops are a dime a dozen.

      Arm yourselves..you have that right.

      Don’t allow your leaders to lead you to the slaughter.

      Note to security people…never ever talk to anyone save your commander.

      This is not a made for schnorrer moment. You are not there to raise tzeddakah.

      G-d Bless the guardians of the Jewish people, wherever they may be.

    4. Yingale___here’s an idea; start with yourself. Get off the Internet, do Torah , tfillah instead of wasting your time. Our time you already wasted, what with us unwittingly reading your corny spillage.

    5. Spoken like a real fool..

      Need I remind you that the vast majority of Jews murdered by the Nazis were your heimeshe yidden.

      Of course you wouldnt know that because you were taught that the Zionists worked with the Nazis to kill Jews.

      My grandparents who were Chassididim from Poland and southeastern Slovakia davened their way to Treblinka and Auschwitz.

      If you never heard of these places.. google it.

      Today we have a strong Israel with a strong army.

      The choice is yours..Stay in golus, daven you way to heaven and eat the crow the goy gives you.

      Or you can be proud strong and Jewish in your own country.

    6. This picture makes me proud. I wish it wasn’t necessary but if these anti semites see us as easy targets it’s time to adjust our image a bit and this looks pretty good to me. I remember the Kahana days in NY, marching and chanting that Jewish blood is not cheap, well lately it appears it is, and I don’t see any leadership and meaningful push back. This has to change and fast.

    7. I’m shocked at the kefirah being spewed here. I don’t blame the posters who obviously don’t know any better but VIN if you don’t know better than to allow these posts get out of this business. What AL said is the king of the pack btw. Shame on you. It tears my heart to see such ignorance. Yingele is right but self defense is still important. We learn that from Yaakov. But to give AL rant about golus?? Painful to read unfortunately

      • How can you say Yingele is right, but self defense is still important? Yingele said self defense is not necessary. Don’t justify stupidity and actually read the criticisms of him. Folks are not saying that we should not daven and be better people, they are simply pointing out that self-defense is necessary histadlus here. If we don’t do histadlus how can we be worthy of heavenly protection?

    8. As a Holocaust survivor , a big Torah scholar who survived Iassi Romanian Nazi pogrom , once told me——- ” The anti-Zionists in Europe who refused help from the emissaries of the Yishuv, and those who even chased them away and even lied about them, CANNOT ever proclaim:
      YADEIN LO SHOFCHU ET HADAM HAZEH.
      Give it up, you golus chazzers. The State of Israel is a fact, and daven for the holy IDF who protect , with Hashem’s help, Jewish people. Never happened in 2000 years. All your envious evil droppings are to no avail.
      I’m treating ya’ll to sufganiot and Strauss ice cream on Rechov Yaffo. Bring the flag and geetars.. Rad Haleilah….. Sovev lo sovev hafindjan.. Ah kleinigkeit?? Eretz Yisroel shteiging in our day?? Chanukah miracle..

    9. Dear Vosizneias editor(s),

      please don’t use the gun grabbers language “assault-style rifles”. Those are modern sporting rifles, they are semi-automatic; NO MILITARY uses them. “assault style” is the phrase the hypocrites who have their own armed security (like the putz Bloomberg) like to use to demonize any law abiding American who wishes to follow the Constitution and defend himself, his family, his house of worship, community and nation.

    10. Anon21____ don’t make yourself sound like a nebechel. AL wrote a truthful description but of course you think it’s kefirah. Why? Because although you didn’t come right out and write it, there’s your odor of antiZionism which you believe is kefirah.

      • This statement by AL

        “Today we have a strong Israel with a strong army.

        The choice is yours..Stay in golus, daven you way to heaven and eat the crow the goy gives you.”

        Is a prime example of כחי ועוצם ידי. Which is kefira and denying השגחה פרטית. If that is Zionism then now you know why Zionism is kefira too. You decide.

        And like I said I’m not against self defense. Nor am I against the Israel army. I’m against the attitude that it’s all in our hands to change everything. That’s כחי ועוצם ידי. Which is classic kefira. If you don’t understand or disagree try learning some mussar and get back to me then we can have a normal conversation when you actually know what you’re talking about

    11. Everyone has to defend themselves. I’m glad to see Jews finally doing it. Look into Jews For the Preservation of Firearm Ownership (JPFO). They are a great organization.

      Just today armed church members stopped an active shooter in a church in Texas. All pilgrims share a deep love of life. Especially their own.

    12. “Al Tivtechu Benedivim Bven Adam Sh’ayn Lo Teshuah”
      Of course it also says “Venishmartem Meod L’nafshosaychem”.
      We have an obligation to do whatever we can to protect ourselves.
      Do we think that Hashem is proud of His Holy Yiddishe Kinderlach bickering in a public forum? If the Yiddishe brothers cannot stand united and need to put each other down in a time of Tzarah, why do you expect the Goyim should love us?
      You may try to blame the president, governor, mayor etc. Did you go to shul and daven WITH KAVANAH FOR THEIR SUCCESS AND OUR SYAATA D’SHMAYA? Did you say all the kapitlach in Tehillim that are auspicious for shemurah? Did you do Teshuvah and make amends to all your Jewish brothers whom you have bickered with? Did you look in the mirror and ask how you might make a difference? What might I do differently to bring about a different result? Will publicly shaming our elected officials make them want to do better work? Will walking around with large unconcealed provocative weapons, costumes and postures protect you? Do you feel you need to try Kochi Veotzem Yadi a little longer, until you have more Koreans?
      Take out your Tzitzis and hide the guns beneath your shirts!!
      When we differentiate ourselves we won’t need “them” to remind us.
      May we all have our collective and individual Yeshuos, physically, mentally and emotionally real soon!

    13. Proud jews!! It’s important that our enemies know that we are armed and willing to fight back.
      And for all those that oppose it, well this is called Hishtadles…

    14. I’m pro gun and respect anyone coming to protect the community. That said, NYS has some very restrictive gun laws. I hope those carrying that level of weapon knows how to use them and have the legal/license status that will not get them into their own legal trouble. The gun license laws in NYS and NYS are designed to frustrate those looking to legally carry. Those criminals operating out of the laws apparently choose to do whatever they want. There are instances where police are out gunned till additional help comes. The leftist liberal run state is more often than not sympathetic to criminals than their victims.

    15. ואבדיל אתכם מן העמים להיות לי, לאור המאורעות שונות ומשונות שתכפו עלינו לאחרונה ה”י אשר נמס כל לב, העת להתבונן בעיקרי יסודות היהדות במה שהקב”ה רוצה מעמו הנבחר בגלות האחרון הזה שנהיה מובדלים מן העמים, לכן נכון לעיין בספה”ק נהרי אש מאיש מופת וקדוש רבי שמעון זעליחיווער זצ”ל במאמר שובה ישראל (ובקיצור במכתב מ’) במה שאמר לפני מלחמת העולם השנייה ומתאים מאוד בזמנינו האלה

    16. in the 1977 blackout all the stores on broadway brooklyn were looted or burned. the stores 2 blocks over were spared because the chassidih owners protected them with their guns.

    17. Very good that Jews are standing their ground. Glad to see preparedness instead of false piety. It is a lovely sight to see but legally perplexing. Can someone help me out where they obtained the permit to carry a semi automatic rifle?

    18. I read these comments and am amused by the sheer stupidity and nonsense.

      Like I said many times…the choice is yours.

      G-d gave us a choice. Today we have Israel.

      Either stay in the trief golus, make a few dollars and learn to eat the goys crow or live in Israel where in time frum Jews will become the majority.

      The choice is yours.

      No amount of wishful thinking is going to CHANGE the equation.

      Golus life has a very short life span. That is a fact. Only In Israel do we Jews have a chance.

      In every generation, Jews have been hounded killed and vanquished. Today we have an Israel thanks to those who are ready to defend it with their lives.

      It is indeed ironic and sad that frum Jews who ought to know better are front row and center in maligning the state of Israel. Meeting with our killers in Iran while wearing Talis and Tefilliun is an act of the worst kind of meshimudim possible

      G-d is merciful, he is also vengeful.

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