DEERFIELD BEACH (VINnews) — As the COVID-19 pandemic continues to drag on, some communities are demonstrating that they will not stand for any violations of social distancing guidelines whatsoever.
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In a letter sent out by the Young Israel of Deerfield Beach, Florida, it was announced that individuals who had participated in a rogue minyan this past Shabbos, would be stripped of all positions and denied future Kibudim in the Shul.
The full letter is below.
they could take the letter and put it where the sun does not shine, this was off premises so who cares, do they give the same sanctions to someone who does misira?
Ohh yeeeah. Not sure I agree but I love how they take an unequivocal position. I wish my rabbi had a real set of tchachkis like this guy
People are done, but mark my words, there is another wave coming. I work in a hospital in Texas and there are more covid positive patients then before. I hope everyone can hang in there and stay safe.
Yet, when these Zionist supporting members publicly support even the most egregious Israeli policies to the consternation of the entire world the committee is quiet. Not a sound! Only a “rogue” minyan bothers them. Feh.
Liars Auguda never banned social distant outdoor minyan . I hope it backfires on these crazies
This is stupid.
Beautiful – It would be so nice if here in Monsey the shuls would do the same.
That means – rRbbi Rudinsky shul, who was open would have to remove himself as Rabbi. Rabbi Rottenberg would have to throw himself out of the Rabista and give up the gold and silver bekishas. Rabbi Schlesinger would have to step down. – However, would Rabbi Schlesinger have to move out of the huge apartment he occupies upstairs??
Disgust & Revulsion!!! Very strong words.. Did they feel the same way about the Tznius, Kiddush Clubs & Talking in their Shul ???
Will they also kick out members whose wives don’t cover their hair or wear pants? I doubt it! Hypocrites. You must listen to the rabbi but it is ok to not listen to the torah….
Time to start a breakaway minyan in Dearfield. Enough with tyranny, dictatorship, egomaniacs. This letter makes clear that someone’s ego got bruised when his psak wasn’t followed. Sorry but he isn’t the possek hador. Not even possek ha’ir. Plenty of people in the community would join and support a new shul. Time to breakaway.
THIS is leadership!!! Not in Brooklyn. Not in Flatbush.
In one community it was done more quietly but a Mashgiach that attended an underground Minyan was fired. The attitude was if he doesn’t listen to the Rabbonim about No Minyanim, how can he be trusted to follow their Kashrus standards?
Will they also be kicked out of the Kiddush Club?
This is Torah Judaism the way it’s supposed to be. You pick your rav / posek, and you follow his halachic directives. You don’t denigrate the Torah by picking/choosing your p’sakim. If the Sanhedrin/Batei Din were in place, the violators would be eligible for makkos mardus, or possibly worse, given the inyan of sakanas nefashos.
I’m fortunate to belong to a shul where the members, by and large, follow the rav’s instructions. People sometimes disagree, and sometimes argue, but in the end, we act as one. The YIDB leadership is commended for dedication to their rav, which comes out to be dedication to the Torah itself and her Giver.
Disgust?Really? HKBH loves all chotim and poshim. Oy vay that Rabbis who are supposed to be pur leaders call their oilem disgusting no matter what they did.
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its fine the average age of the membership is 85 and majority have dementia, they properly wont remember this next week
It doesn’t take “guts” it takes leadership, which the Jewish world is very sadly lacking. Bravo to the Rov of Florida, wish more Rabayim were like him, maybe our Jewish world would look better.
We here in Brooklyn had a beautiful lag bomer. We had fires and music all over. We need to be strong against the reformer even the open orthodox gang. We need not be afraid or ashamed to have public minyans. We will overcome.
Again the meathead utters nonsense, as only he can. Way to go archie.
Please post information about where to donate to the new break away minion. The tyranny here cannot go unchecked. I don’t live in Florida, but the actions of these rabbis and lay leaders of this Shul discust me to my core
Most of the people who died did not die from carona. They were elderly and their time was up. They would of died anyway. It’s just a political ploy to label every death as carona 19.
The proof of the pudding is that yesterday in Brooklyn music trucks were driven around with blasting music. Fires and dancing was everywhere. Everyone realized that this virus was a fake. Normally people in the eighties do die but it’s just not publicized. Now it became stylish to label everyone kovid 19. If you were not labeled that way it would not be bekovidik.
I’m not taking sides here.
But curious if those mocking the Deerfield’s rabbi rule are the same ones who holler ” daas Torah” whenever Lakewood ravs make an edict and it’s forbidden to go against them.
IOW_ is ” tyranny” a selective word?
I know this congregation well and just find it ironic that people who go mixed swimming, who go swimming on Yom tov, come to shull wearing shorts, woman don’t dress appropriate especially when in shull, shave their beards on Chol Hamoed are allowed to have these positions in shull. I guess one can violate halacha but not the shul policies
The members of the rogue minyan should never be permitted to come back to the Shul, when it reopens; NEVER!!!
Sad that the rabbi was probably forced to sign this garbage.
And also sad to publicizeit by writing the letter in the first place.
After everything quiets down, they will let them all back into the minyan.
You’re not allowed to hold a grudge.
This was done more of a scare tactic than anything else.
To the brave minyan makers, keep up the great work.
To all you people who disagree, tell me, do you do shopping?
That’s what I thought.
I CALLED DEER FIELD TO GET THE FACTS & CONTEXT
1. senior living complex for the past 3 months each day at some point they sit around the deck/ grass spread out & shmooze
2. someone had yartzeit so he said everybody stay at your place , & i’ll be the chazan we are all sitting here anyway
3 not on shul property , no hats & jackets
4 so the shul board told one of the minyan dont give the daf anymore
Happens to be that the Swimming pool at their club house is open for up to 30 people at a time. But members of the shul cannot make an outside minyan in front of their building! How insane!
I have visited this community. It is a wonderful modern orthodox community. The averaqe age is not 85 – it is much younger since one can buy there at 55 years of age! Most of the crowd buying and moving in is the Sheitel/black hat crowd. Unfortunately most of the people making that Minyan, I was told are the chassidim. The fur hat crowd don’t support the shul – they just take from it (kiddushim, etc.). The Rov is an ehrlicher mensh and gives wonderful Shiurim that all can enjoy. The time I bought I didn’t know they existed as an orthodox community. Second largest Daf Yomi in the country, they claim. Those considering buying down there, do so. You won’t be sorry. But it’s not Miami!
I guess these minyan goers don’t have enough gelt to protect them from sanctions. No one with enough gelt power would be tcheppered with. Kesf metaher (even) mamzerim – Kal v’chomer a minyan goer.
Circus it’s a circus. Everyone get back to work. Leave the comments up to us steady commentators. Hatzalacha.
stating the obvious hasn’t got a clue as to what is going on over there. All his comments are made up and comical. I would bet he has never stepped a foot into the place. I understand the minyanaires were warned not to repeat making the minyan and did it anyway. Beautiful development, the landscaping has been upgraded in the last 7 years. In the winter it is a very active community! with daily programs and shiurim. Summertime it is a bit slower but all in all there is every kind of yehudi living there in a very homogeneous atmosphere.
There may be a lot of apartments coming available in Century VIllage.
stating the obvious just by saying nasty things doesn’t make it true or correct. I visit there about once a week and have my fingers on the pulse with very influential permanent dwellers and you are so very WRONG obviously. First of all, the minyanaires were not board members. Second of all, by the very nature of being a Board Member comes a certain amount of assurance, if you want to call it having an ego trip, so be it. This is a super community and you have no right to put it down, having davened there once or twice! Those who moved to WPB did the right thing, birds of a feather need to flock together.
You want to live in lala land that’s fine, half of CV is there already
BREAKING NEWS:
The letter is UNSIGNED!
The edict was never executed.
The judgement has not been sealed.
It is a draft used to intimidate, extort and dictate.
shame on this synogauge. That’s not how yidden deal with things.
horrible. This is why moshiach is still not here. Live and let live
Either BOTH sides should apologize to each other and make sholom,
or,
the Rov and board should be called to Bais Din.
Whether the residents are 55 or 85 does not make any difference. If the minyon did not take place inside of the synagogue, then the rabbi or board members have no right to tell anybody what to do. They must all be Democrats. And just like the Democrat governors who are paving the way for trumps reelection with their power trip, the rabbi and board members are paving the way for these people to make a new minyon and to just leave the shul forever. That would serve them right.
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REBUTTAL BY A RESIDENT OF CENTURY VILLAGE DEERFIELD BEACH
The rogue minyan referred to in the letter by YIDB took place at a far corner of the property of Century Village, not on YOUNG ISRAEL’s property. The Minyan consisted of 11 people, all masked, with 5 men davening on the grass, socially distant and 6 people on their respective porches spread out on three different floors, on Shabbos morning. The davening did not even include KRIYAS HATORAH and was a one-time minyan for the purpose of saying a KADDISH on a yurtzeit!
The reaction from YIDB was an extreme public shaming of the participants with abusive language, name-calling, and circulating it to thousands of people. This RECHILAS that went ‘viral’, scattered around the world was, by design, humiliating for the sake of humiliation. It was intentionally defamatory and borderline libelous with their exaggerated language especially by omitting the mitigating details.
It defies one’s logic and rationale that Young Israel of Deerfield Beach conferred this extreme punishment of ostracizing, humiliating and ridiculing Yidden publicly for the sin of davening and saying KADDISH on a yurtzeit, when, indeed, there are daily social gatherings in circles of more than 20 people at one time right here on the same lawn for hours! It is a powerful and physical reminder of a dark period in history when Jews were persecuted for praying.
The shame and humiliation Young Israel perpetrated globally and the Machlokes and Sinas Chinam that they created in a time of a global pandemic, is not retrievable and unforgiveable.
Beezras Hashem this entire episode should pass without additional damage and we look forward to a peaceful existence for all of klal Yisroel