Rav Chaim Kanievski: We Were Banished From Shuls Because Our Phones Were On

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BNEI BRAK (VINnews) — In a letter written Monday regarding the expected reopening of Shuls in Israel this week, Rav Chaim Kanievski wrote that we need “to establish a permanent rule (Takkanah Kevu’ah) that all telephones should be off during the entire period of the prayers and it is prohibited to enter the shul and pray with a telephone which is not shut off. The Gabaim should exhort and rouse people to recognize the enormity of the transgression and the disrespect to shuls and batei midrash”

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At the beginning of his letter Rav Chaim writes that “for a number of weeks we have been banished from our shuls and batei midrash like slaves who come to pour a cup for their masters and the cup is poured on their faces, and it appears that this is a sign from heaven that people sinned and belittled the sanctity of the shuls by praying with their telephones on and talking on them. This is a tremendous disrespect to the prayers and the sanctity of the shul which our fathers could never have imagined. It is against the halacha in the Shulchan Aruch (Orach Chayim 151) and the Zohar in Vayakhel teaches terrifying things about such behavior.”

Rav Chaim concludes by saying that in the merit of accepting upon ourselves this rule, “Hashem will return us swiftly to His service in shuls and batei midrash and will accede to our prayers with love and willingness.”

Rabbi Gershon Edelstein added his signature to Rav Chaim’s letter and added that “we should also be careful not to speak idle talk in our shuls.”


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Yu alumn
Yu alumn
3 years ago

Maybe it’s because we don’t embrace technology more that’s why we had to use it by force

moker rabanan
moker rabanan
3 years ago

before any wise guy comments about the letter of maran hagoan hatzadik rav chaim think carefully what you say hes a great tzadik and gadol hador!

machshiv rav chaim
machshiv rav chaim
3 years ago

we should listen to the words of our generations gadol hador and our urim v’tumim., and not chas vasholom comment negativly about the words of Rav Chaim shlita

Moone
Moone
3 years ago

I’m now digging myself a hole for embarrassment

zev
zev
3 years ago

I don’t understand, If all the Nationalities are suffering from Corona because of us Yidden, than why do we purposefully Exclude the Goyishe victims from our Teffilos for Refuah Shleimo. We should feel guilty towards them?

huge
huge
3 years ago

@samhirsch u should be ashamed of yourself. Ur sick in the head. R chaim is the undisputed gadol hador – EVERY word that he says is kadosh. Please don’t be disrespectful

huge
huge
3 years ago

very very foolish and disgusting comment. Don’t be disrespectful to the gadol hador…ur playing with fire

Positivity Bias
Positivity Bias
3 years ago

That’s strange because I don’t bring my phone into a Shul and I was still locked out! I believe Hashem is thrilled with our level of avodah in Shul. It seems to me that now He wants us to bring that same wonderful avodah into our homes to refine there too through Torah learning, davening and giving tzedakah.

Chanaya
Chanaya
3 years ago

Anyone who doesn’t know why the Lord above brought this plague on mankind, not just the heilige Charedi Yidden, have anything intelligent to say?

Ed Greenberg
Ed Greenberg
3 years ago

I do not understand how anybody can take two totally unrelated things (phones in shul and a world wide pandemic) and state with certainty that one caused the other.

Normal
Normal
3 years ago

With respect, comments like that are making people frei out.

Yossi
Yossi
3 years ago

Oh I thought it’s because people talked in shul, I guess God updated him that it is the phones that caused this virus

ah yid
ah yid
3 years ago

I can’t believe some of the comments written here. Not only because a Godol Hador is speaking, but some comments seem to be suggesting that there can only be one reason why this pandemic and it’s results happened. We are not nevim. No one is suggesting the true reason or remedy. However, there are two things at play here personal and communal. On the personal level, our job is not to say this is the reason or that is the reason. Every person has to look at the situation and ask himself what he personally needs to improve. However, on the communal level, there are leaders it may be a rov of a congregation or a rov like Rav Chaim or even a parent in a home. Each leader has to address what he feels the klal as a whole needs to be fixed. Obviously, if Rav Chaim mentions cell phones that won’t negate other things that need to be rectified in our society. Someone will ask why were schools closed? Maybe its because we reject students. Someone else will say weddings. Someone else says tznius and the list can continue.

OTD
OTD
3 years ago

COVID-19 has taught us one thing: there is no end of stupidity people will spout. The cause of the virus has been sheitels, phones, the Internet, too large chassenes, too short skirts etc. etc. If we really believe that everything comes from Heaven – hakol bidei shomayim – the reason is because in shomayim it was decided that a plague should come that would amongst other things kill of many talmidei chachomim, tzaddikei hador, Rebbes, etc. etc. That should teach us something about how talmidei chachomim, tzaddikei hador, Rebbes, etc. etc. are regarded in heaven. And, no, please don’t tell me that they are so special that they were wanted in heaven. If heaven killed them off, it was because heaven didn’t place great value on what they were doing down here.

huge
huge
3 years ago

This new concept of the “2020 era” that everyone has to understaqnd everything otherwise they don’t obey – has gotta go. As Orthodox Jews- Torah observing Jews- we do what were supposed to do and what were told to do – AND WE DONT ASK QUESTIONS. WE DONT HAVE TO UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING. If the gadol hador says something we obey it and follow it – we don’t start questioning him. All the best

OTD
OTD
3 years ago

@huge Quite right if you have an empty head and don’t understand anything.

John Smithson
John Smithson
3 years ago

How many times do I see people scrolling their phones during hazarah shatz. And then so absorbed in their phone they use it until alienu. I see it all the time. Even people answering calls during tefillah.

Boroch
Boroch
3 years ago

I have nothing but contempt for these slobs who will let their telephones ring loudly and intermittently during services, or worse, they will play with their phones during davening. They are just too lazy to turn them off, before they come to the sanctuary. Some Shuls have severe restrictions regarding cell phones, and will fine their members big time. Prior to the late 1990’s, there were no cell phones in Shul, even though they had been on the market, since the 1980’s. It is bad enough that we have to listen to people loudly speaking on their cell phones at a Doctor or a Dentist offices, restaurants, airlines, etc. However, in Shul, that is another story. One time, I actually saw a Russian speaking on his cell phone in front of a Shul on Yom Kippur. When I gave it to that character, he grinned in my face. Another time, on the now defunct airline Air Tran, there was a female passenger seated in front of me, who was yakking so lously on her phone prior to take off, that I couldn’t hear the Captain’s announcements. When I shussed her, she waited until the plane landed and gave me horrible looks. If the flight attendants had been doing their jobs, they could have stopped her bad and illegal behavior sooner.

georgeg
georgeg
3 years ago

Where does it say that the “Nationalities are suffering from Corona because of us Yidden”? You got this backwards. The point is why we were not spared the suffering just because the nationalities deserve it for their anti-Semitism and other crimes.

huge
huge
3 years ago

ahh the heilege gadol hador!!

Northlanders
Northlanders
3 years ago

We all managed before mobile phones came along.
Turn it off and enjoy the peace and quiet and the sense for true FREEDOM.
You are not free until you turn the phone off.
Indeed landlines are an interreption as well, so go back 100 years and imagine the peace and the ability to focus people had. If you need to make a call turn it on and then off again
Why not start a phone diet? Turn it off for half the day or just an hour or two